The rising 2017 - Discrimination

[Ariochie9771]

Okay, what do you suggest Square does about this issue without violating the integrity of the puzzle itself?

Well for other disabilities there are systems in place - all i am saying is there should have been for this one - possibly color co-ordinate it matching numbers, letters and colors - would have made it easier. There are a lot of solutions for this issue for people with the same disability as myself - but none of these were implemented - that is my issue, i just want to know why they were not. And it would not have been violating the integrity of the puzzle itself at all.

[Ariochie9771]

I'm really not sure what your aim is here. Problems are problems, no matter who has them or what form they take. Yes I know it's not real.

Yeah you are right your situation was not real - you were not forced to go to a REAL sea - I had to do an event or try to do an event which made me face my REAL disability - Also Problem, mine is a real disability not a fear. I understand you have a fear but it isn't a medically recognized disability so no matter how much you want the situations to be the same they wont be.

Also to be honest I'm not sure what your aim is all you have done is say how my disability is the same as a Fear when it isn't - a fear you can possibly get over through therapy - a disability is there for life. Also i am not attacking people - i am just making a point, and saying that a certain disability which is easy to cater for was not catered for and the event was unnecessarily hard for people who have that disability.

[Ariochie9771]

But this event treats everyone equally.Everyone has to do the maze.Everyone has to do the number letter riddle.Everyone is treated the same.

right here is my issue with this - there are systems in place for people with other disabilities such as sight disabilities hearing disabilities - there wasn't anything in place for people with the same type of disability as me - I am asking why and if they could be included in future - that's all. I havent said give people special treatment at all - i am asking that a system be put in place for this kind of disability like there is for a lot of other disabilities.

[Vorlonshadow]

Come on guys. I also have dyslexia all I did was out the letters in fc chat and in seconds it was solved also the numbers correspond to the letter and in the same order even with dyslexia you can do thus easily

[Vorlonshadow]

Come on guys. I also have dyslexia all I did was shout the letters in fc chat and in seconds it was solved also the numbers correspond to the letter and in the same order even with dyslexia you can do this easily

[Ariochie9771]

Come on guys. I also have dyslexia all I did was shout the letters in fc chat and in seconds it was solved also the numbers correspond to the letter and in the same order even with dyslexia you can do this easily

I am talking about both Dyslexia and Dyscalculia which means letters and numbers are the main issue - i understand you have Dyslexia and you have probably had difficulty with it at certain stages - but you have said you have dyslexia you don't have both. I am only saying that people with both disabilities should have a system to rely on, like many other disabilities do - Sigh disabilities - Hearing disabilities they are all catered too.

Like i said before maybe if a Color system was also put in place for this event so that people with both disabilities could match the letters, numbers and colors not just have to rely so heavily on the letters and numbers. All i am asking is why was there not something more in place.

[Tanathya]

I actually have a good point and again - You have NOT got this disability - and what is EASY for you is not EASY for people with Disabilities, seriously i am sure 3 other people told you the same thing earlier - why are you posting the exact same thing.

I have dyslexia and I found the puzzle to be quite easy, once you figure out the correlation between the two floors, if you have a disability don't whine every time something is hard. Figure it out, be smarter than everyone else

There. YOU have been asked to stop, not me. Check it out again, please.

Only one person has pointed out how wrong I might be (even though I'm not), and I said the exact same thing because I opened the second post already warning that I was gonna reiterate what I already said. You can be dyslexic, which I respect and feel for you, and you can be a whiner.

[HyoMinPark]

Well for other disabilities there are systems in place - all i am saying is there should have been for this one - possibly color co-ordinate it matching numbers, letters and colors - would have made it easier. There are a lot of solutions for this issue for people with the same disability as myself - but none of these were implemented - that is my issue, i just want to know why they were not. And it would not have been violating the integrity of the puzzle itself at all.

Okay, and this solution would not work for individuals suffering from complete color-blindness, which I believe a poster in this thread commented that they suffer from. It may also pose issues for individuals that have specific color-blindness. What about them, then? Your solution to cater to these two specific disabilities inherently makes things difficult for another subset of specific disabilities.

The accusation that this puzzle is discriminatory against individuals with dyslexia and/or dyscalculia is absurd. I am pretty close to legally blind. I struggled to read the small white print on gray background for some of the numbers and letters, but you don't see me coming here to demand SE cater to my disability. Instead, I spent a little extra time on the puzzle, and guess what? I got it done. There's no time limit on the time you have to complete the puzzle once you start it; use different techniques to make it easier on you, or, better yet, ask someone for help. This is a Massively Multiplayer Online game, and there are plenty of friendly people in-game that would have no issue helping you out. Heck, you could have made a thread on here or reddit with screenshots of the first and second floor and asked posters for help, saying that you were having issues telling the difference between some of the characters.

There's no shame asking individuals for help, whether you have a disability or not. There is shame in demanding a company cater to your specific disability though. There's nothing wrong with content being accessible and easy for all individuals, disabled or not. But it is downright nearly impossible to try and cater to all disabilities without excluding others (see what I said above about your solution to color-code the numbers and letters). There are people out there who have disabilities, and instead of playing the victim and demanding special treatment and/or sympathy, they embrace their disabilities for what they are, and find ways to live as close to normally as they possibly can.

Also, if you want to start demanding sympathy and specially treatment for your condition, you should probably refrain from trying to trivialize other's conditions. No one is more or less entitled to "special treatment" over others. What may seem "silly" to you (the individual's phobia of being underwater making The Ruby Sea particularly difficult for them) is not silly to another person. So stop trying to trivialize them. Phobias and extreme phobias are classified as valid medical and mental health conditions. Whether the trigger is simulated or real or whatever, doesn't make them any less real for someone who has them.

[Ariochie9771]

There. YOU have been asked to stop, not me. Check it out again, please.

Only one person has pointed out how wrong I might be (even though I'm not),

I opened the second post already warning that I was gonna reiterate what I already said.

honestly you just seem like one of them drunken bar fighters always looking for a fight.

You can be dyslexic, which I respect and feel for you, and you can be a whiner.

you have already been told What is easy for you is not easy for others - you have no disability at all why are you still commenting here and others have told you this as-well - you are wrong you have 0 knowledge of the disabilities i speak of why are you continuing to be aggressive towards me when you know nothing. Also if you felt for me then why would you say the puzzle was easy - for me it wasn't - you are very narrow minded towards certain degrees of disabilities and it shows.

[HyoMinPark]

you have no disability at all why are you still commenting here

I also take a lot of issue with this sentence. Who are you to say that someone you don't know doesn't suffer from their own inner demons or their own disabilities? You don't know the people that post on here from Adam, so don't assume that people who disagree with you, or who claim the puzzle was easy, don't have disabilities. You don't know that, so don't assume.