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    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    however why do you find it acceptable to ruin our fun
    Why do you find it acceptable that I was given an unfair disadvantage in this event which ruined my fun and the fun of many others who have the same conditions as myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariochie9771 View Post
    why should i be put in to a position where i have to ask for help you were not.
    Like for example, not all people can clear some battles in the game. Somebody might have slower reaction times, and maybe they need help from people who have the brain for that sort of thing. Your solution would be reducing complexity of all battles so that people only need to pay attention to 1 thing at a time and it is more inclusive to people who are unable to multitask and react fast. It is ok to need help or know your limitations.

    I don't have your specific condition but there's plenty of stuff I can't do in life. If you try to design something to be inclusive of all people then you are left with nothing. Audio cues to ping when job gauge is full is discriminatory against deaf people? Remove audio for everyone. Some people can't read, remove all text, etc.
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    Okay so firstly this is not the same at all - please don't try to make it the same.

    Audio cues to ping when job gauge is full is discriminatory against deaf people - they have a system in place for this, they have made this equal.

    Some people can't read - its called Audio description, again a system in place for this, they have made this equal.

    My point i have been making - if you would read is THIS EVENT did not have a system in place for people with my conditions. I'm the one with medically diagnosed conditions yet you are the ones who are failing to see the point - again possibly because you have not got any disability which relates to this matter. I have said over and over THIS EVENT there was no system in place which made it equal for people with my conditions.

    Love this comment mind "who have the brain for that sort of thing" are you implying because of my condition i am stupid because that what it seems like. Do me a favor be quiet from now on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariochie9771 View Post
    Some people can't read - its called Audio description, again a system in place for this, they have made this equal.
    So I guess first off, I remember when games had a line that said, "Basic reading ability is required to fully enjoy this game." Did they hurt someone's feelings too much because they couldn't read that?

    Also, I'm sorry. I don't see how someone who can't read is making it to content where you need it. The game as Audio cue's because they're easier to pick up than reading, which makes you look away from the action. Just like how I don't see how Dyslexia is an issue here. You have two floors. One with numbers, one with letters, in the same spots. Even a person that can't read can pick up on that. My FC has people with Dyslexia, but the issue wasn't, "DISCRIMINATING AGAINST ME SE IS MEANIE" it was, "How do I know where letters go?" which was fixed easy by mentioning the numbers.

    Also, if I want to get technical, they did put something in place. They gave those who would have more difficulty an infinite amount of time, something they could have easily timed. It IS a dungeon after all, it's normally timed. You have literally as much time as it takes you, and that's very generous when you take into account the event's story is your friend being stuck until you crack a code.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariochie9771 View Post
    As for the Rufalu's comment "I don't think everything should be made for everybody" - that is just disgusting, firstly everything should be made for everybody its the law its called the discrimination act - look it up it basically says everyone should have an equal chance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ariochie9771 View Post
    Love this comment mind "who have the brain for that sort of thing" are you implying because of my condition i am stupid because that what it seems like. Do me a favor be quiet from now on.
    I don't mean to offend. Trying to be factual, I don't think it's possible to be 100% inclusive. Nothing is made for everybody. Some people might get dizzy seeing motion on a screen. Video games in general aren't for everybody.
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    You can try to make me look like the bad guy as much as you like - I have a fair point, Square Enix did not put enough thought in to this event when they made it and as a result me and a lot of other people with the same conditions have struggled with it. And to be frank most of the people that have replied to this thread have no disability stopping them from taking part in this event - so really on this matter your opinions count for little to nothing because you were NOT effected by these disabilities and were able to do this event with out problems.

    As for the Rufalu's comment "I don't think everything should be made for everybody" - that is just disgusting, firstly everything should be made for everybody its the law its called the discrimination act - look it up it basically says everyone should have an equal chance.
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    Noone is born equal. Discrimination is a part of natural order. If someone with dyslexia is unable then he should seek alternative solutions or accept that they are not up to the task.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PomPomFlare View Post
    Noone is born equal. Discrimination is a part of natural order. If someone with dyslexia is unable then he should seek alternative solutions .
    again someone who has not got a disability stopping them. Also What do you mean no one is born equal are you saying . . . because ill be honest this comment of your's can be taken in a way which makes you look very very bad. In the eyes of the law everyone is born equal and everyone needs to be treated equally and that means catering for all disabilities
    Audio disabilities - Sight disabilities -Learning disabilities -Physical disabilities

    And again my point is THERE WERE NO alternative solutions in this situation where as there should have been

    Quote Originally Posted by PomPomFlare View Post
    accept they are not up to the task.
    You know that this is discrimination right - Saying someone is not capable of doing something because of a disability when there is no alternative system in place. and again said by some one with no disability, and said in malice.
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    Oh, I didn't know there was assist systems for those things you described. Sorry for the trouble this game caused you. For what it's worth I expect it to be once ever and not come back. They seem to come up with different ideas each year. Even this minigame, when unlocking it for repeats, doesn't seem to have letters and numbers any more. I'm trying it from the toy box at home and now it seems to be only searching for a key through the maze and then using the key.
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