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  1. #31
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    Naunet's Avatar
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shihen View Post
    so give us your oranges for free".
    We pay a subscription; nothing in this game is free.
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  2. #32
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    Silvauna Skylar
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    Mogstation can rot in a dumpster. With how much SE loves to proclaim this game as a smashing success with (wait for it) "10 MILLION PLAYERS!!!!" *gasp*, they have no reason to beg for money from a subscription based game.
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  3. #33
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    Nahctyrn Bhaldornnsyn
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    Viper Lv 100
    Why would you WANT to pay for an outfit?
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  4. #34
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    As far as I remember, cash shop purchases go directly back to the FFXIV team and only the FFXIV team, whereas sub/expansion income goes to SE as a whole to use across all their projects and shareholders. I'm happy to pay for stuff in mog station if it means it's going back to the FFXIV team that make the only SE game I actively play.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  5. #35
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    Hestzhyen's Avatar
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    Hestzhyen Voer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    In this post: Why are people paying for goods and services when you can ask for everything to be free?
    Nothing in life is truly free. But we pay for the right to play this game every month on top of the cost just to download it. I'm of the feeling that since we pay a sub so SE can cover the costs of running and creating content for the game, we should not have to pay extra money on top of that for other things like emotes and outfits. If they really want to have the cash shop then give us an option to earn it for free in-game somehow. But it's flat-out ridiculous to have a cash shop on top of what we already pay. The best thing I can say about it is "at least it's not pay to win"... which isn't exactly a high bar to clear.
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  6. #36
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    Chloe Grace
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    Bard Lv 80
    How about a glamour system built into the game that doesn't suck instead, and is free?
    One that doesn't clog a retainer's inventory with otherwise obsolete items, and is account-wide, and has a nice, clean easy-to-use interface?
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  7. #37
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Ragnarok
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
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    You said it yourself, you pay for the right to play the game every month. So why are you under the impression outfits and emotes are part of that payment if it's only to play the game every month?
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    Baby, tell me, what's your motive?

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    You said it yourself, you pay for the right to play the game every month. So why are you under the impression outfits and emotes are part of that payment if it's only to play the game every month?
    Did you ignore the rest of my post? Let me break it down for you.

    - FFXIV is a Pay to Play MMO with a monthly subscription.
    - The cost is necessary so the devs can keep the lights on and keep producing content that people want so they keep paying the sub fee. So we pay to play and access the content we want to make use of.
    - Costumes (glamour), mounts, and emotes are a huge part of why people play MMOs in the first place- it's cool to get stuff for doing stuff. We get some of these things in-game because the devs know that.
    - XIV also has a cash shop that sells these things, only you can't get them anywhere else (/playdead, various glamour gear, mounts, and more)
    - That is really f***ing greedy and I strongly disagree with its existence

    And the more and more they add, the more I feel like SE is going to stop putting them in the game itself. If I wanted to pay for non-essential stuff I'd just cut the costs and play a Korean MMO that locks all the good stuff behind micro-transactions. It'd be cheaper for me and I wouldn't feel stiffed because I would not be paying OVER A HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR on top of that. That's where the rub is. I think we should get what they produce since we are already technically paying for it to be made.

    I would not mind the Mog Shop's existence so much if there were ways to earn its contents in game. Lock each item behind a huge grindfest the likes of which the world has never seen if you have to.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    Lock each item behind a huge grindfest the likes of which the world has never seen if you have to.
    And here is where I stop trying to converse with that mindset.

    You'd rather an item be more-or-less unobtainable, full stop, rather than be obtainable for a little extra. I'm just gonna say I disagree and end it there.
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    Last edited by ErryK; 08-26-2017 at 11:25 AM.



    Baby, tell me, what's your motive?

  10. #40
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    In this post: Why are people paying for goods and services when you can ask for everything to be free?
    I would love to know how you access the servers for free, sadly I have to pay a monthly sub to play that game....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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