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  1. #11
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    Yesui Himaa
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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnaus17 View Post
    Well a real GEO draws from all elements not just Stone and Areo
    Just in FFXI. In FFV, they literally have an ability called EARTH, and in Dissidia, Bartz gets, wait for it... Earthquake and Wind Slash.

    Also, pretty sure we've got the other elements covered in Black/Red Mages pretty well.

    Geomancer = WHM. Time Mage = AST. Put it to rest.
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    Nazmul Souless
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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnaus17 View Post
    Well a real GEO draws from all elements not just Stone and Areo
    I only know Geomancer from FF5 and they aren,t healers so have they appeared in any other FF on the form of a healer ?

    They could just create the flower girl from FF7 but I guess it would just be WM with more shields.
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    I'd love to see GEO as a caster or Healer! And if they do make it a healer I would defiantly love for it to be a very unique class that stands out from its other three healers, but idk, I wrote a little GEO Healer thread and I felt it was like If FFXI GEO and FFXIV AST had a baby lol.

    But regardless, I'd feel overly surprised IF SE added GEO in between patches it would be anything other than a healer.
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    Spiriel Basanda
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    Quote Originally Posted by jstamos View Post
    Just in FFXI.
    This little bit is false. FFIII and FFT GEO used most, if not all, elements.

    Late edit: Actually, even FFV's GEO used most elements, despite the ability being named "Earth" or "Gaia" depending on which version you played.
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    Last edited by Spiriel_Basanda; 08-28-2017 at 09:12 PM.

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    Riyshn'a Nhise
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatronasCharm View Post
    But regardless, I'd feel overly surprised IF SE added GEO in between patches it would be anything other than a healer.
    Dunno, there's a couple arguments on either side for what role it could be:

    Healer:
    AST SB questline introduces a character that seems to be a ritual-based healer.
    SB changes have demoralized a lot of healers. Introducing a new healer could mitigate that.

    Against:
    Introducing a new healer without also introducing a new tank seems unlikely.
    SE very clearly has no idea what to do with healers.

    There's also that SE has stated that adding Ninja mid-ARR was a lot more work for the dev team that they expected it to be, and they're unlikely to do that again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riyshn View Post
    There's also that SE has stated that adding Ninja mid-ARR was a lot more work for the dev team that they expected it to be, and they're unlikely to do that again.
    But it's been a while since mid-ARR and they were just re-starting the game from it's original flop. Maybe now that they're deeper into their 2nd expansion it will be easier with the additional man-power SE probably instilled seeing how successful FFXIV has become. I'm sure that FFXIV Dev. team has grown 3x since its original re-release.

    Here's for me to holding on to Hope that an Earthly Entity that derives it's powers from the Earth's weather / terrain comes to light and ignites their party members with Earthen Fury, and enhancements, or perhaps manipulate Weather and Earth to bring down its foes!
    I made a concept for DPS / Healer for Geomancer, it's pretty in-line with SE's Cookie-Cutter personalities it brings to FFXIV too.
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    Atabey Guabancex
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    Quote Originally Posted by jstamos View Post
    Just in FFXI. In FFV, they literally have an ability called EARTH, and in Dissidia, Bartz gets, wait for it... Earthquake and Wind Slash.

    Also, pretty sure we've got the other elements covered in Black/Red Mages pretty well.

    Geomancer = WHM. Time Mage = AST. Put it to rest.
    The fact that RDM also has access to the same elements, to be honest, works against the argument. It means elemental magic is not exclusive to White Mages/Conjurers.

    I still honestly would not expect to see a real Geomancer job until class systems are entirely stripped from the game and a major retcon of the class quests is introduced. Conjurers should had evolved into Geomancers, not into WHM. I think the only reason they went WHM is that at the time they were shooting for the most iconic jobs and nostalgia hooks. If they were only going to have the one healer job, there was no way it would not be WHM.

    In this expansion they showed they are actually willing to take away abilities. They took Stoneskin away. I would now not be shocked if they also took away Stone and Aero and replaced them with more holy magic spell lines in a future expansion. Don't predict it will happen either, just that nothing will shock me anymore.

    As for Time Mage: I would expect a Time Mage to be the offensive cousin of Astros, not unlike SMN is the offensive cousin of SCH and BLM the offensive cousin of WHM (similar weapon models.)
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    Last edited by Ogulbuk; 08-25-2017 at 06:28 AM.

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    Atabey Guabancex
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatronasCharm View Post
    But it's been a while since mid-ARR and they were just re-starting the game from it's original flop. Maybe now that they're deeper into their 2nd expansion it will be easier with the additional man-power SE probably instilled seeing how successful FFXIV has become. I'm sure that FFXIV Dev. team has grown 3x since its original re-release.
    If it was "easier" for them, we would not had only seen 2 jobs this expansion. They are still doing big changes to the job/class system, and they keep casually referencing the removal of classes (possibly 5.0)

    I would love to be wrong and get new jobs mid expansion, but wont hold my breath. Still fun to think about, though. Just because it's not likely does not mean we cant have fun theorycrafting the possibilities.
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    Estellise Valesti
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    If we are to get a new job mid expansion (which I still highly doubt) I want it to be DNC with Asian inspiration. Fans as weapons, sakura petals..
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    If we are to get a new job mid expansion (which I still highly doubt) I want it to be DNC with Asian inspiration. Fans as weapons, sakura petals..
    DNC healer with fans would be a thousand times more interesting than GEO, which has already been showcased in one of the job quest lines as a ritualist who communes with spirits--basically, an Eastern CNJ.
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