And then they ask, where are all the healers at..

[bswpayton]

Well yeah, but all tanks do get Low Blow which can be used to stun 1 enemy at least.

having a stun is a wasted slot of me on tank, anticipation cause I dont trust healers, awareness, provoke, conv, rampart all slots filled , thus only one I can stun with is palidan

[Taika]

having a stun is a wasted slot of me on tank, anticipation cause I dont trust healers, awareness, provoke, conv, rampart all slots filled , thus only one I can stun with is palidan

When I'm tanking, I consider my responsibility to try to mitigate as much as damage as possible, and this includes stunning significant monster attacks. I would swap Anticipation for Low Blow for dungeons where you know you'll have to stun (same as when I'm healing I'll swap Esuna in when I know I'll have to use it).

Edit: I actually meant to say to swap Awareness away, it has very limited uses.

[bswpayton]

When I'm tanking, I consider my responsibility to try to mitigate as much as damage as possible, and this includes stunning significant monster attacks. I would swap Anticipation for Low Blow for dungeons where you know you'll have to stun (same as when I'm healing I'll swap Esuna in when I know I'll have to use it).

drk for example if you dont take antiaption your only form of mitigation is rampart, and shadow wall on physical attacks , because living dead is something I try not to use because alot of healers just dont get it. If I dont take antipation then theres no need to take awareness because the two pair well together. And for someone who does large pulls in every dungeon antiaption is a must, lowblow the only time I know a stun would help is the level 61 dungeon, and even then its really not even needed his seduce isnt gona kill you.

As for the bees in qarn its simply just a dps check you just kill the bees first shouldnt be a problem, but darknights df cool down kit is a joke seeing as how their best skill isnt even usable until level 70 so you can only use it in four dungeons now and the primals and raids. As a tank Ill take any kinda df cool down thats available especially in a df situation, or pugging situation. Those bees are just mostly a dps check and when you have two of them at once which is only one time if you focus down one then you should be fine.

[Claire_Pendragon]

Qarn, tank does have to try and stun, and CD through it, but DPS should never be so low as to see final sting, ever.
Ive never seen final sting when im DPSing with someone else who is roughly on par or better than me.

w/o tank stance, final sting will do all of your HP in dmg if no CD i sup.
(I think you have like 2-2.2k hp, and it does 2-2.5k hp in dmg. with a tank stance or a single CD, and at full HP, you'll survive. there is a pull with double final stings, to which you need 1 killed, and stun the other, or CD through it.)
But jsut wait till Lv63+ dungeons, when tanks are so under geared they go from full HP to 20% hp in a single GCD. And wait till one round and they get crit by a few enemies, they are as good as dead if they have no CD up. (and if its proc based, like anticipation/bulwark, and fails to lower dmg, AND the crits go out, as they cant be parried/blocked.)

[TaleraRistain]

I have a macro that will help with this

/p My heals are powered by your salty tears. Please keep them coming.