Here you go Yoshida, hard-straight stats.

[Kiara]

@Kiara, who quit?!

Big Totoro.

[Rydin]

What baffles me is why this even needs fixing in the first place. In other words, why they even thought this was a good idea to replace the Darkhold system. A child could see the flaws in this system and it's mind boggling why someone didn't say "Um, yeah this isn't going to work and everyone's gonna get pissed off" in the conceptual phase of development.

I'm guessing the employees who didn't speak up are the same ones who were extremely quiet at launch....

[Sigmakan]

Big Totoro.

Don't know him very well, but saw him everywhere, hes a staple of Kashuan! Sad indeed.

[Rydin]

As bad as this system is....
I'd even be satisfied if the drop rate was modified based on what you have already gotten.

For instance:

7% drop rate initially (1% chance of each weapon)
once you have a weapon, it is removed from the possible loot
after 3 drops you have 8% drop rate with each of the remaining 4 weapons being 2% of that
5 drops and the last 2 weapons are 3% each for a 6% drop rate
after 6 drops, the 7th weapon should be like a 4% drop rate

Not perfect but would be better than what we have

[Arksniper]

The Ifrit fight is fine and drop rates are right where they should be for the 15 min re-entry time. Even HNMs in 11 which popped once a day had drop rates in the 1-5% range (riddle,d.ring) Dynamis drops also come to mind (rdm/thf). Get over the fact that you may have to run a fight more than once and get dup items. SE don't touch these fights or loot systems please. If my mid-core ls can beat Ifrit he is not that hard to nerf him.

[Sigmakan]

I think people are ok with the drop rates (~2% for an individual weapon) but are not OK with how the loot is placed directly into your inventory and you have no option of giving it to someone else.

[Greencactaur]

Funny how they want this game to be casual, but they can't get something as simple are drop rates correct. Don't anyone say "Oh nooo they want this game to be both~" Get real that will never happen. The game will have to choose one side. It sucks though since SE doesn't understand what casual means. I personally am not casual, but SE is pretty knocked up when it comes to making gaimez.

[darkstarpoet1]

Funny how they want this game to be casual, but they can't get something as simple are drop rates correct. Don't anyone say "Oh nooo they want this game to be both~" Get real that will never happen. The game will have to choose one side. It sucks though since SE doesn't understand what casual means. I personally am not casual, but SE is pretty knocked up when it comes to making gaimez.

there's been very few people in here saying anything about the drop rates themselves. the problem is when you get something chances are you get an item you already have and cannot pass it on to someone else in the party that needs it.

[Reinheart]

Keftenk should update his first thread and post in big large fonts so people can read this isn't about drop rate....

[Req]

Keftenk should update his first thread and post in big large fonts so people can read this isn't about drop rate....

definitely agree. Please do it Keftenk.