So, they're finally at least considering giving us a glamour log?

[Rhinos]

Throwing out the whole system and starting from scratch would be pretty drastic. While I wouldn't oppose their doing so if there was something to be gained in the process, there would have to be a significant reason for something like that. The big problems with glamour now, at least the ones I'm aware of, can be fixed without it. Are there other issues besides the two I'd brought up (the storage problems that could be solved with a glamour log, and the inability to use different glamour together with the same base gear)?

In the past, SE has cited data issues/server load for their reluctance to implement a glamour log. Presumably, fundamental changes to how glamours work may be necessary, for the feature to be practical, data wise. We can only wait and see.

[RichardButte]

In the past, SE has cited data issues/server load for their reluctance to implement a glamour log. Presumably, fundamental changes to how glamours work may be necessary, for the feature to be practical, data wise. We can only wait and see.

I get that it's problematic for their databases, but I don't get how anyone could accept that as a valid excuse for not adding extremely desired features to the game.

[Niwashi]

In the past, SE has cited data issues/server load for their reluctance to implement a glamour log. Presumably, fundamental changes to how glamours work may be necessary, for the feature to be practical, data wise. We can only wait and see.

I doubt any fundamental changes (or even any trivial changes for that matter) to how glamours work would have anything at all to do with a glamour log, since the log is just a way to store items prior to glamouring them (or rather to switch from storing the items to just tracking which are available).

Whether it's in a log or in inventory like now, either way the only thing it's doing for the glamour system is identifying a list of what appearances can be used. What the glamour system then does with those appearances, whether it's recording them onto other items or on outfit slots, is outside the domain of the log. (In fact, if the software is structured well, the glamour log software should be completely unaware of what type of glamour system is in place, and vice versa.)

Fixing the other issue (the one about separate appearances with shared gear) on the other hand, does involve changes to how glamour itself works, so that one could at least potentially involve a more fundamental change to the system as a whole. I just don't see any compelling reason to jump from "it potentially could" to the conclusion that it would need to.

[Rhinos]

I get that it's problematic for their databases, but I don't get how anyone could accept that as a valid excuse for not adding extremely desired features to the game.

Because significant dev resources would be required to rebuild systems from the ground up, they didn't want to give a definitive answer at the time(That's my guess anyway). Regardless, the good news is that SE now appears to be planning the feature after all(or at least some big change to glamours). We can only speculate on what that entails.

[Moonlite]

Isn't the player base fairly desperate for a usable system. I am sure I have seen people say they would settle for the aesthetician interface. Meaning it would be locked away and usableonly in a certain place. I think that would greatly reduce some of the stress.

No one is asking that this dev team be as good as other teams as implementing features. A solid base and then down the road if they want to upgrade or come up with some new design, great for us. For now give us a simple, usable, quality product. No silly design where you try to look smart and it just comes off as bad.

[Naunet]

Throwing out the whole system and starting from scratch would be pretty drastic.

Not drastic when their current system is crap and based off poor coding. They should fix it from the ground up instead of trying to scaffold together something with toothpicks.

[Alleo]

Because significant dev resources would be required to rebuild systems from the ground up, they didn't want to give a definitive answer at the time(That's my guess anyway). Regardless, the good news is that SE now appears to be planning the feature after all(or at least some big change to glamours).

Yet they use resources for an App and used resources for photo mode and things like that. (I am fine with that feature but sometimes I wish they would try to solve the big problems instead of giving us these changes first)

Also seeing how they always change their opinion about a glamour option from one interview to the other (from it being impossible, to its possible but not high priority to being not that possible again, to wanting to introduce a glamour history) I will remain skeptic until we have that in the game. Seeing how long they took for the egi glamour system I dont have that much hope that we will get it before 5.0

[Laerune]

I just want something similiar to what Guild Wars 2 has: A book with all unlocked glamour skins. This way I can free up alot of inventory spots.

[Aylis]

I considered that this is possible (and terrifying), but opted to riff on what was done with housing instead. >_>
Hell, I could see them making some sort of library where you have to pay for a limited space to store your 'glamour grimoire', thus turning half of the population on the other in a "Screw you, they're limited and I got mine" fashion...

Sadly it wouldn't shock me in the least if they took that route. More so sadly because I'm honestly expecting it to happen. If the way they worked retainers taught me anything is that they sure don't have a problem getting over the ps3, ps4, old pc, miss use of currant resources, server, memory, storage, sad moogles or whatever limitations they have. If it means being able to tack on additional service fees for rental space.

$30+ a month subscription fees, please look forward to it.

[Niwashi]

Not drastic when their current system is crap and based off poor coding. They should fix it from the ground up instead of trying to scaffold together something with toothpicks.

You missed the point. You'd already said that you'd instead want it thrown out and started over from scratch. What I asked was why. Just gratuitously saying it's "crap" doesn't mean anything unless there's something crappy about it. As I said:

While I wouldn't oppose their doing so if there was something to be gained in the process, there would have to be a significant reason for something like that. The big problems with glamour now, at least the ones I'm aware of, can be fixed without it. Are there other issues besides the two I'd brought up (the storage problems that could be solved with a glamour log, and the inability to use different glamour together with the same base gear)?

If you'd provide a reason, then we could discuss it. If you can't, then I'm not sure why you're sticking with your idea that the whole system should be replaced. What benefit are you hoping to gain from that, that fixing the problems in the current system couldn't achieve?