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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Spamming Adlo is never warranted, that's horrible advice. There isn't a single situation where you ever need to do that. You can do it to supplement or help where tank cooldowns don't exist, but it's not simply as a re-apply when shields are broken. You'd be OOM even back in ARR or Heavensward if you did the same thing.

    If you are talking a dungeon setting even with tanks that forget mitigation cooldowns exists, you should be using Rouse+Whispering Dawn practically on-cooldown every pull, using Lustrate just get to get in safe range as-needed (not this burn all 3 stacks to 100% HP, that's not necessary Embrace can do that). Build the fairy gauge aggressively, and for all mega-pulls you should have enough in the gauge to solely be using Aetherpact while getting DoTs/Bane/AoE damage going to fry the suckers. Your job is to make full use of that gauge, it's mega-potent for any pull. The QoL enhancements make it even more easier to use and if the tank likes to move a bit further away because of AoEs.

    Embrace as-a-button (yes you should have this as a spam button), and Physick is your last spam heal if you need it. Like the pull has to be so outrageous that it's going to be ogre if you don't use those two buttons.

    I'm sorry, but you can't just justify we need to be able to spam Adlo at 50% cost to keep subpar players alive, the Scholar kit can certainly handle all the mega-pulls possible.
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    Elliot Cloverfield
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    I'm sorry, but you can't just justify we need to be able to spam Adlo at 50% cost to keep subpar players alive, the Scholar kit can certainly handle all the mega-pulls possible.
    WE DON'T WANT TO SPAM THEM. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE THEM WITHOUT THEM TAKING SUCH A HUGE CHUNK OF OUR MP PULL. WE DON'T WANT TO FEEL PUNISHED FOR DOING OUR JOB OF PREPARING FOR INCOMING DAMAGE WITH THE MAIN REASON I'M THERE. With these spells so expensive, two of our trademark spells that we learn so early in our kit are borderline useless because it's not feasible to use. It was never a good idea to spam them, unless you had to because of mechanics, since the healing part of the spell was very small. However, it helped your co-healer with their healing since everyone had more essential HP.

    I used to say, "A good SCH helped with WHM's MP management." Our management used to be fantastic, while the WHM tended to struggle. With our shields, a WHM should have needed to use less MP themselves, so that was less healing they had to do. It was still mostly true in HW, only SCHs let even more of the healing bulk fall on the other guy since the DPSing healer meta really took off. However, now, in SB, with Adlo and Succor so expensive and inefficient, we want to avoid those spells like the plague, which means more of the healing bulk falls on WHM and AST. Sure, our healing cooldowns are fantastic, but, if none of them are up, the SCH suffers immensely. You can argue in "not using them badly", but you're also under the assumption that everything is running perfectly and no one messes up. In the speedrunning meta that people worship as the Bible, yeah, SCH is fine. But, in progression? I feel like, "Why am I here when I would have a much easier time on a different job?" At this point, the only reason to have a SCH is because the fairy is still decent and SCH's dps is still pretty good and consistent. However, for the most part, the other two healers feel easier and have a generally larger reward for far less effort.

    TL;DR: WE DON'T WANT TO BE BROKEN. WE DON'T WANT TO BE PUNISHED FOR DOING OUR JOBS OF SHIELDING THE PARTY.
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