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  1. #11
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    NobleWinter's Avatar
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    Scholars shouldn't have a Native Ability that requires an optional Role Action. Spreading Eye for an Eye with Deployment Tactics makes me cringe. No other healer is required to use Eye for an Eye. I think the general consensus is that Scholars should be spreading Excogitation with a reduced potency instead. Just like Bane should spread Chain Strategem.

    Scholars are supposed to be Battle Strategist but they have a toolset that makes it seem like they didn't plan for war very well. I really wish the Fairy had a better critical bonus too. It would be nice if every time your fairy did a critical heal it would reduce the cost of Succor or Adloquium temporarily.
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    Last edited by NobleWinter; 08-18-2017 at 09:22 PM.

  2. #12
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    Ceasaria's Avatar
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Samurai Lv 80
    AST says : Eye for and Eye + Celestial Opposition + Time Dilatation
    I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    All I want is one expansion where they reanalyze the jobs and make massive adjustments to unhomogenize them. This is Final Fantasy 14 not Club penguin I dont wish for jobs that only have 5 buttons going for them or play exactly the same as 2/3 other jobs.
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    This current card system needs to be unwritten, destroyed and never returned.

  3. #13
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    Ku Rando
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    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    I really wish the Fairy had a better critical bonus too. It would be nice if every time your fairy did a critical heal it would reduce the cost of Succor or Adloquium temporarily.
    You know that would be really nice thing to have. If the SMN's pet can effect their chance for Ruin IV, it'd be interesting to see the Fairy being able to effect a certain SCH actions. Although Succor is already effected by Sacred Soil, so Aldo would probably be better suited.

    Going back to OP about E4E, having a reduced cooldown to put it back to where it was pre-SB to compliment Deployment Tactics would be nice.
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    Last edited by Kurando; 08-18-2017 at 08:38 PM.

  4. #14
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    Scholars shouldn't have a Native Ability that requires an optional Role Action. Spreading Eye for an Eye with Deployment Tactics makes me cringe. No other healer is required to use Eye for and Eye. I think the general consensus is that Scholars should be spreading Excogitation with a reduced potency instead. Just like Bane should spread Chain Strategem.
    Scholars aren't required to use it either. If you do, then you can spread it. If not, Deployment Tactics doesn't break.

    And if we're talking about role actions, WHM using almost all of them to get back stuff that was previously there (and better in the case of Largesse) would love to have a chat.
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  5. #15
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    Roxas Andrade
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    What I think should be changed in E4aE is to make the CD the same of Deploy. Period.
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    Want a heal? How much money you got?

  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxas_Andrade View Post
    What I think should be changed in E4aE is to make the CD the same of Deploy. Period.
    I have no idea why Scholars got such an odd shift in SB. Deployment Tactics was the trademark of their Skill Set in Heavensward and then it got broken into an optional skill combo with recast timers that don't line up. It feels so devastating to need a skill that doesn't even properly line up to get your full utility. Why have they forsaken us!
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  7. #17
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    Rurulu Namilu
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    SCH needs more buffs! Make the magic happen Yoshi-P.
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    Fried popoto enthusiast.

  8. #18
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    Elliot Cloverfield
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    Adamantoise
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    I have no idea why Scholars got such an odd shift in SB. Deployment Tactics was the trademark of their Skill Set in Heavensward and then it got broken into an optional skill combo with recast timers that don't line up. It feels so devastating to need a skill that doesn't even properly line up to get your full utility. Why have they forsaken us!
    This was so weird imo. Not only do the cooldown timers not line up, E4E got a weird duration nerf. It wasn't like it was that broken to begin with at 30s. We already lost Virus, and Sacred Soil isn't worth the Aetherflow more often than not. I mean, ranged DPS got a straight better E4E in Pallosaid in being an extra cooldown for tanks. BRD also got a Convalescence to put on whomever they want. So, why the E4E nerf?
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  9. #19
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    Kai Earendel
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    Hyperion
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    I feel like E4E really underscores the sloppy way that role actions were implemented for healers and tanks. From DPS they mostly just took utilities that were great to have but not mandatory; you could almost take every single role ability away from melee DPS whilst having zero impact on their ability to perform their role.

    For healers and tanks they took core, essential skills and some nice utilities, yet gave us the same number of ability slots as DPS. The problem with E4E isn't that it's bad and in need of a buff, it's that by the time you've grabbed the abilities you require to perform your basic function, there's no room left for it.
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  10. #20
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    Elliot Cloverfield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunks View Post
    I feel like E4E really underscores the sloppy way that role actions were implemented for healers and tanks. From DPS they mostly just took utilities that were great to have but not mandatory; you could almost take every single role ability away from melee DPS whilst having zero impact on their ability to perform their role.

    For healers and tanks they took core, essential skills and some nice utilities, yet gave us the same number of ability slots as DPS. The problem with E4E isn't that it's bad and in need of a buff, it's that by the time you've grabbed the abilities you require to perform your basic function, there's no room left for it.
    BUT PROTECT IS ICONIC AND IMPORTANT

    -Yoshi P., probably.
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