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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
    Those cooldowns will help tankers to do their work. What's the tanker's work? Tank monsters. And what he must do?
    Hi

    You may have noticed that from time to time, you get 3 other individuals cramping your little party bar in the corner of your screen over there, perhaps on rare occasions, you might even have to share that space with 7 other individuals, the indignation of it all!

    Fret no more tho! These are what's called teammates. Yes, you're part of a team now Harry.

    One of the most fundamental aspects of being an effective and efficient team member is to share responsibilities and to be considerate towards those you're working with.

    Going back to the Tank thing, for example, it's purely the tanks responsibility to keep agro right? So it's fine if I pre cast Medica II and regen everyone surely? It's not my problem! Naturally this is very very wrong. Agro is your responsibility to some degree as well as the DPS' also.

    A Tank's core role might indeed be tanking, but it's also just as important for them to position, face and hold mobs considerately and thoughtfully. Once they've got that down, it's entirely possible for more advanced tanks to literally double their damage output with some thought and planning! Crikey!

    A DPS' core role might indeed be hitting stuff, but they're also responsible for resource regeneration, important mitigation abilities, being considerate with their agro and switching between aoe or single target rotations wisely as well as the all important avoiding telegraphed damage!

    A Healer's core role is indeed healing, but you'll go places if you think of yourself as more of a support. You've got many tools beyond your basic cures at your disposal to help make dungeons and raids go smoother, safer and more efficiently. Some of those tools are fantastically under utilised cooldowns, and if you look really hard, some might even involve DPS. I appreciate that that's it's whole scary new world out there buttercup, but let's not forget now. A dead mob does 0 damage.
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    Last edited by Sebazy; 08-18-2017 at 05:15 PM.

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    miraidensetsu's Avatar
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    Luno Belfi
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
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    Please, drop the condescendent tone when you didn't understood what the issue is. That will not help on anything. One more time: the issue is not healer DPS'ing itself. Its ALL THE CRAP he must hear because he's not meeting some DPS quota while keeping everyone topped, even when some DPS insists on standing inside the bad or go to the dungeon undergeared.

    That crap is why some healers went to DPS/Tank jobs, only heal to friends/static or just don't subbed anymore. And that crap is what you're feeding while is defending that healers should DPS, even YoshiP stating otherwise.

    Thanks for being the part of the problem, not the solution.

    P.S.: DPS is responsible for resource regeneration? Funny. I only received MP from a RDM on just one run. If I asked some help, they most always said "but mai deeeeeeps".
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
    One more time: the issue is not healer DPS'ing itself. Its ALL THE CRAP he must hear because he's not meeting some DPS quota while keeping everyone topped, even when some DPS insists on standing inside the bad or go to the dungeon undergeared.

    That crap is why some healers went to DPS/Tank jobs, only heal to friends/static or just don't subbed anymore. And that crap is what you're feeding while is defending that healers should DPS, even YoshiP stating otherwise.

    Thanks for being the part of the problem, not the solution.
    I think the problem is you're not really taking part in this discussion, as in actually responding to people and their points, but instead fighting against your personal negative experiences (that are something that many of us, who also play healers and have played them in this game for a long time in all levels of content, have never witnessed) which have nothing to do with the people you are "discussing" with here. And it's just ridiculous for you to claim "you're part of the problem!" of the bad healer treatment you seem to have experienced, to people who actually play healers themselves.
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