Just realized something: FFXIV is a terrible DPS player's DREAM come true...

[AlexionSkylark]

My guess is that he finds the attitude of "Anyone who isn't doing perfectly should be called out and shamed and probably kicked from duty" repulsive as I do and is getting a bit frustrated with it, despite the fact I strive to do as best as possible, I think the people who are raring to call out and shame others for their poor performance are the biggest obstacle to actual community improvement.

Positive reinforcement always works better.

Something along those lines.
I'll just add that some people (actually a lot of people) are casual in a level that they do not read websites, do not look up rotation guides, do not know what the stat weights for their class is, do not know and do not read news about the game. They just want to log in, have some fun doing a dungeon, log out, and not give a single second of thought towards the game until they feel like logging in again. And while they are logged in, they want to RELAX mashing some buttons and seeing stuff go down. If they could perform their rotations by pressing a single button successfully, they would. And they would even prefer it that way, to be honest.

And there's nothing wrong with that. This particular content is tuned in a way that it's clearable even by those standards. So THOSE people can also experience the game and have fun with it. By holding those people to a higher standard than they are willing to commit (even that standard being SO minimum and easy FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW), in practice, you're shunning those people from the game. You're sending them away. They will NOT trouble themselves, that's not wh they started playing it in the first place. They'll simply freeze their accounts and go play something else that suits them better.

But that's not what the devs intend. They want their game to be accesible and played by ALL kinds of players, INCLUDING those uber-casual ones. It's hard to please everyone, but they try to achieve that in a way that's INDEED fair to everybody: they provide way for every type of player to enjoy the game. Now, you're the one going in the kindergartener's sandbox and demanding that they try to build castles instead of just lumping sand together in no specific format. Because YOU (you as in everyone trying to apply that logic to roulettes) find lumps of sand boring, but they don't. The valid options here are either resigning to play with the 3-year olds at their pace, or resign to your own sandbox of the bigger kids (going premade). Trying to force the babies to play in the way you find fun is not a valid alternative.

[vp_cmc]

I'll just add that some people (actually a lot of people) are casual in a level that they do not read websites, do not look up rotation guides, do not know what the stat weights for their class is, do not know and do not read news about the game. They just want to log in, have some fun doing a dungeon, log out, and not give a single second of thought towards the game until they feel like logging in again. And while they are logged in, they want to RELAX mashing some buttons and seeing stuff go down. If they could perform their rotations by pressing a single button successfully, they would. And they would even prefer it that way, to be honest.

I think, that single player games suite these people needs way much better, than MMORPG. In MMO's I'm not ok with these people fun if they make it at expense of my fun. Never forget that there are (usually) people who play these characters, so maybe 1 person fun is not more important then 3 (or 7) others.

[RichardButte]

I think, that single player games suite these people needs way much better, than MMORPG. In MMO's I'm not ok with these people fun if they make it at expense of my fun. Never forget that there are (usually) people who play these characters, so maybe 1 person fun is not more important then 3 (or 7) others.

This.

Why are DPS players delicate little flowers who deserve to have every allowance made for them, but the healers and tanks who make their dungeon runs possible aren't people but props who are there to help these terrible DPS players have fun...?

[Jijifli]

This.

Why are DPS players delicate little flowers who deserve to have every allowance made for them, but the healers and tanks who make their dungeon runs possible aren't people but props who are there to help these terrible DPS players have fun...?

I remember going into Sirensong Sea (The 61 dungeon) with a Samurai as the other dps, but he was in full 130 gear. He did no damage and died in every single mechanic, such as the stack mechanic, even if everyone was in it with them to split the damage. They clearly went in unprepared and were of very little help, yet the tank and healer in the party proceeded to praise them for their efforts, while ignoring me (on ninja) trying to push through as hard as I can to make up for the lack of help.

I wouldn't be surprised if people play more poorly because they get praise for "effort" during it, but none when they actually do something correct.