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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    It's worth noting that the extra stats, DH, and Spell Speed leads the i320 crafted to be more consistent.

    However, the giant crit boost from the i330 means that while it might be marginally less at times, it can and will swing for much higher when the crits start rolling in.
    If they start rolling in. I have a dragoon in my static and even with Battle Litany up more often then not I wont get a single crit during its window since my crit is so low already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IllyriaKnotfred View Post
    If they start rolling in. I have a dragoon in my static and even with Battle Litany up more often then not I wont get a single crit during its window since my crit is so low already.
    There is no pain like a critless litany.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    There is no pain like a critless litany.
    Honestly the hit to spell speed and direct hit just feels so... gross... while using the 330 weapon. The adjustment for losing 150 SS is just way to uncomfortable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IllyriaKnotfred View Post
    Honestly the hit to spell speed and direct hit just feels so... gross... while using the 330 weapon. The adjustment for losing 150 SS is just way to uncomfortable.
    That is what I'm dreading too, I currently am Sitting at 2k SpS, and 1.9k Direct hit. And I that is without food. (With Food I hit a little over 2.1k SpS) I am a little scared to just drop the crafted staff for the WD, Int as much as the math tells me I should...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glacie View Post
    That is what I'm dreading too, I currently am Sitting at 2k SpS, and 1.9k Direct hit. And I that is without food. (With Food I hit a little over 2.1k SpS) I am a little scared to just drop the crafted staff for the WD, Int as much as the math tells me I should...
    It's mostly in your head, I'd say. I've been hovering around 1700 SS for the whole savage (broke 1800 for the first time ever just yesterday) without problems. Then again, I skipped the latter half of HW, and immediately after 4.05 was already the fastest I've ever cast my fires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glacie View Post
    That is what I'm dreading too, I currently am Sitting at 2k SpS, and 1.9k Direct hit. And I that is without food. (With Food I hit a little over 2.1k SpS) I am a little scared to just drop the crafted staff for the WD, Int as much as the math tells me I should...
    We have a BLM in our static consistently parsing in the 90+ percentile on all 4 on savage and he has around 800 Spell Speed. There are pro's and con's to a higher Spell Speed value but it doesn't necessarily lead to higher numbers by default, just maybe makes it less punishing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waliel View Post
    It's mostly in your head, I'd say. I've been hovering around 1700 SS for the whole savage (broke 1800 for the first time ever just yesterday) without problems. Then again, I skipped the latter half of HW, and immediately after 4.05 was already the fastest I've ever cast my fires.
    I Really Hope so, I know I'm not the best BLM around. Just a little concerned. Even if the 330 wasn't that big of a jump, the 340 augmented would be. So might as well get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thela View Post
    We have a BLM in our static consistently parsing in the 90+ percentile on all 4 on savage and he has around 800 Spell Speed. There are pro's and con's to a higher Spell Speed value but it doesn't necessarily lead to higher numbers by default, just maybe makes it less punishing.
    I skipped BLM in HW, so Relearning the Ins and outs of BLM has been a task. Plus I'm with a bunch of friends who honestly are just here to have fun. But I'm that one friend who likes to squeeze what I can out of her job XD
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    Last edited by Glacie; 08-22-2017 at 01:02 AM. Reason: Adding Stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thela View Post
    We have a BLM in our static consistently parsing in the 90+ percentile on all 4 on savage and he has around 800 Spell Speed. There are pro's and con's to a higher Spell Speed value but it doesn't necessarily lead to higher numbers by default, just maybe makes it less punishing.
    Could I have their name so I can search their lodestone? I'm genuinely curious as to how his SS is that low
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    Quote Originally Posted by IllyriaKnotfred View Post
    Could I have their name so I can search their lodestone? I'm genuinely curious as to how his SS is that low
    I'd like to know too. with our current tier of gear you'd have to intentionally avoid SpS to be anywhere under 1k.

    EDIT #1: Removed name for now since I may be incorrect on who it is.
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    Last edited by magnanimousCynic; 08-22-2017 at 02:11 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IllyriaKnotfred View Post
    Could I have their name so I can search their lodestone? I'm genuinely curious as to how his SS is that low
    Kime No'raya, he's logged out on DRG on lodestone atm though. I asked him why he doesn't go for spell speed and he said that the timing on foul is much better at lower spell speed thresholds and once you get used to your rotation taking a certain amount of time you can work around that fact. Now I'm not claiming its the best way to go, just pointing out that it is perfectly possible to produce good numbers without a ton of spell speed which in turn allows your other stats to go higher.
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