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  1. #3001
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    Waliel's Avatar
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    Waliel Hla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galvuu View Post
    In a vacuum, the B4 opener isn't necessarily better.
    The biggest advantage, to me, is that my AF lines up very perfectly with a lot of buffs that come out on 3rd/4th/5th/6th gcd, like Chain Stratagem, Trick Attack, Battle Voice and all that...
    Maybe if I had one of those mythical Ninjas, not to mention we even lost our Bard, too. I kind of like the Sharp opener just because it's faster. Not like it's gonna make a big difference in the whole fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    There is no pain like a critless litany.
    I'll never forget that one Thordan EX where we had two Dragoons and I didn't get a single crit in p1.
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    Conqueror Dusk
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Garotte14 View Post
    I apologize it's taken this long to get around to making edits to the Black Mage Guide. Prog, family emergencies, as well as vacation have delayed this much longer than I had originally hoped. But it is done and will continue to be updated throughout the xpac. I'm sure there are some spelling errors or things I may have missed. Feel free to let me know if you find any incorrect information.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing
    Is the 3fireVI fire 3fireVI using BlizzVI rotation better than 2FireVI Fire 3FireVI not using BlizzVI rotation?
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  3. #3003
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusk278 View Post
    Is the 3fireVI fire 3fireVI using BlizzVI rotation better than 2FireVI Fire 3FireVI not using BlizzVI rotation?
    It is a lot harder than just which is better. In straight potency per second, 5 F4 rotation is better. But it isn't as easy as just use that rotation all the time. You need to be able to enter this rotation with full mana, and you need to have a 0 cost spell ready to cast when you enter UI after it. (Foul or T3P). Then in the cases where you can't satisfy this quickly, use the B4 rotation.
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  4. #3004
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    Glacie La'vondane
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    Quote Originally Posted by IllyriaKnotfred View Post
    Honestly the hit to spell speed and direct hit just feels so... gross... while using the 330 weapon. The adjustment for losing 150 SS is just way to uncomfortable.
    That is what I'm dreading too, I currently am Sitting at 2k SpS, and 1.9k Direct hit. And I that is without food. (With Food I hit a little over 2.1k SpS) I am a little scared to just drop the crafted staff for the WD, Int as much as the math tells me I should...
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  5. #3005
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    Waliel Hla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glacie View Post
    That is what I'm dreading too, I currently am Sitting at 2k SpS, and 1.9k Direct hit. And I that is without food. (With Food I hit a little over 2.1k SpS) I am a little scared to just drop the crafted staff for the WD, Int as much as the math tells me I should...
    It's mostly in your head, I'd say. I've been hovering around 1700 SS for the whole savage (broke 1800 for the first time ever just yesterday) without problems. Then again, I skipped the latter half of HW, and immediately after 4.05 was already the fastest I've ever cast my fires.
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  6. #3006
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    Thela Ivora
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Glacie View Post
    That is what I'm dreading too, I currently am Sitting at 2k SpS, and 1.9k Direct hit. And I that is without food. (With Food I hit a little over 2.1k SpS) I am a little scared to just drop the crafted staff for the WD, Int as much as the math tells me I should...
    We have a BLM in our static consistently parsing in the 90+ percentile on all 4 on savage and he has around 800 Spell Speed. There are pro's and con's to a higher Spell Speed value but it doesn't necessarily lead to higher numbers by default, just maybe makes it less punishing.
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  7. #3007
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    Glacie La'vondane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waliel View Post
    It's mostly in your head, I'd say. I've been hovering around 1700 SS for the whole savage (broke 1800 for the first time ever just yesterday) without problems. Then again, I skipped the latter half of HW, and immediately after 4.05 was already the fastest I've ever cast my fires.
    I Really Hope so, I know I'm not the best BLM around. Just a little concerned. Even if the 330 wasn't that big of a jump, the 340 augmented would be. So might as well get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thela View Post
    We have a BLM in our static consistently parsing in the 90+ percentile on all 4 on savage and he has around 800 Spell Speed. There are pro's and con's to a higher Spell Speed value but it doesn't necessarily lead to higher numbers by default, just maybe makes it less punishing.
    I skipped BLM in HW, so Relearning the Ins and outs of BLM has been a task. Plus I'm with a bunch of friends who honestly are just here to have fun. But I'm that one friend who likes to squeeze what I can out of her job XD
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    Last edited by Glacie; 08-22-2017 at 01:02 AM. Reason: Adding Stuff

  8. #3008
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    Dalaren Elvanis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thela View Post
    We have a BLM in our static consistently parsing in the 90+ percentile on all 4 on savage and he has around 800 Spell Speed. There are pro's and con's to a higher Spell Speed value but it doesn't necessarily lead to higher numbers by default, just maybe makes it less punishing.
    Could I have their name so I can search their lodestone? I'm genuinely curious as to how his SS is that low
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  9. #3009
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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by IllyriaKnotfred View Post
    Could I have their name so I can search their lodestone? I'm genuinely curious as to how his SS is that low
    I'd like to know too. with our current tier of gear you'd have to intentionally avoid SpS to be anywhere under 1k.

    EDIT #1: Removed name for now since I may be incorrect on who it is.
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    Last edited by magnanimousCynic; 08-22-2017 at 02:11 AM.
    I was the Almighty Enkidu for April Fools 2017.

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  10. #3010
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    Thela Ivora
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by IllyriaKnotfred View Post
    Could I have their name so I can search their lodestone? I'm genuinely curious as to how his SS is that low
    Kime No'raya, he's logged out on DRG on lodestone atm though. I asked him why he doesn't go for spell speed and he said that the timing on foul is much better at lower spell speed thresholds and once you get used to your rotation taking a certain amount of time you can work around that fact. Now I'm not claiming its the best way to go, just pointing out that it is perfectly possible to produce good numbers without a ton of spell speed which in turn allows your other stats to go higher.
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