Warrior Off tanking dps

[Freyyy]

I'd be curious to know if anyone has this math available. It seems counter intuitive unless there's some rotation trick I'm not using that would never require me to use BB combo.

It's flat out better to just dump 20 gauge on a 100 potency onslaught every now and then (when you're gonna over-cap on gauge) than sacrificing 10 gauge for just a 20 potency gain. It's as simple as that.

[Lumadurin]

Warrior is a very rigid class and it's important you learn how to schedule things apporpriately.
A good thing to remember is that 100 gauge = approx. 30s at least, 37s at most

MT Opener
Butcher's Block Combo x3
Onslaught x2
Upheaval x1
Switch to DPS stance.
Build up to IRzerk window ASAP.

OT Opener
Heavy Swing > Infuriate > Maim/Storm's Eye
Storm's Path Combo > Upheaval
Storm's Eye Combo.
Heavy Swing > Berserk > Inner Release > Fell Cleave x2 > Maim > Storm's Path > Fell Cleave x3 > Infuriate > Fell Cleave x2

Extremely rigid and even half a second of downtime will cause you to drop the last cleave, so use Onslaught to mop up the remaining 20 gauge so you can stay on schedule if it happens.

IRzerk Window
Heavy Swing > Berserk > Inner Release
Fell Cleave > Onslaught > Fell Cleave > Upheaval
Maim > Storm's Path > Fell Cleave > Infuriate
Fell Cleave > Fell Cleave > Onslaught > Fell Cleave

The Upheaval can be delayed if you have low HP.

Berserk Window
Heavy Swing > Berserk > Fell Cleave
Now here you can just do the following in whatever order (use your brain and don't do something like use Infuriate at 70 gauge though):
Butcher's Block Combo x2
Upheaval x1
Onslaught x1
Fell Cleave x2
Infuriate x1

Normal Rotation (between both Windows)
Storm's Eye Combo.
Butchers Block Combo.
Upheaval (may not be off CD yet but use ASAP)
Storm's Path Combo x2
Storm's Eye Combo (make sure Upheaval has been used)

If you are behind schedule by more than 6-7 seconds, then skip the Butcher's Block + Upheaval.
If the delay happens AFTER the Butchers Block, use Onslaught to dump the gauge instead of Upheaval.

[Baci]

Why would you go BBx3 for the MT opener? With how you open you take like 1 min to start doing dmg
And why even BBx3 without having path up

[Lumadurin]

Why would you go BBx3 for the MT opener? With how you open you take like 1 min to start doing dmg
And why even BBx3 without having eye up

I like to establish a strong lead so that there's less chance of having to dip back into tank stance later on in a fight.
Eye is ignored there because the an entirely new SS/BB should generate more emnity than an eye-buffed SS/BB, if my understanding is correct.

[ArianeEwah]

I like to establish a strong lead so that there's less chance of having to dip back into tank stance later on in a fight.
Eye is ignored there because the an entirely new SS/BB should generate more emnity than an eye-buffed SS/BB, if my understanding is correct.

This is how you actually pull on WAR

Just kidding. Seriously tho, 3x BB is too much. Enmity is party duty and not tanks alone. Ask your OT to shirk you, or DPS jobs to use diversion, then enmity is no concern.

Yet your opener should look like this or this if you need more enmity.

[Lumadurin]

Yet your opener should look like this or this if you need more enmity.

Huh, interesting. Especially that second one.
I use Equilibrium as a poor-man's flash when tanking dungeons, but it never occurred to me to use it as supplementary aggro during the opener for some strange reason.
I'll give em a shot next time I'm running stuff. But typically the only time I'm MTing is in pubbed content anywho (Ex primals, omega normal, etc.), and you can't trust randoms to manage their emnity. =w=)a

[BluexBird]

6 Fell Cleaves is cute and all, but you're actually hurting yourself in the long run. Just use IR + Berserk on your second combo and go with 4 + Upheaval and an Onslaught.

Here's what I use for Exdeath when I don't have a Ninja in the party, and need to hold enmity. Starting in Defiance:

Tomahawk + Equilibrium + Deliverance
Heavy Swing (Infuriate) -> Maim (Thrill) -> Storm's Eye
Heavy Swing -> Skull Sunder (Berserk) -> Butcher's Block (Inner Release)
Fell Cleave (Onslaught) -> Fell Cleave (Upheaval)
Heavy Swing -> Maim -> Storm's Path (Holmgang)
Fell Cleave (Rampart) -> Fell Cleave
Heavy Swing -> Maim (Convalescence) -> Storm's Eye (Reprisal)
Heavy Swing (Onslaught) -> Skull Sunder (Infuriate) -> Butcher's Block
Heavy Swing -> Maim -> Storm's Path (Upheaval)
Heavy Swing*
Heavy Swing -> Maim (Onslaught) -> Storm's Eye

* You will end up with a free GCD at the end, but it's better to end with Storm's Eye so that the buff is still up after Flare. This could be a Fell Cleave, but Berserk will be up after Flare too and it'll be better to use it there.

Now this here is overkill when it comes to enmity, but it guarantees I still have a big lead regardless of party composition, and also makes sure I end up with 80 points on my beast gauge.

With a Ninja, the combo changes towards the end. Instead of using another Butcher's Block, I just use Storm's Path and swap the two Onslaughts for an extra Fell Cleave, again leaving me with 80 points.

So you see, there's no need to stay in Defiance, OR to use a repeated number of Butcher's Block combos, just to get an enmity lead.

[Felorr]

OT Opener
Heavy Swing > Infuriate > Maim/Storm's Eye
Storm's Path Combo > Upheaval
Storm's Eye Combo.
Heavy Swing > Berserk > Inner Release > Fell Cleave x2 > Maim > Storm's Path > Fell Cleave x3 > Infuriate > Fell Cleave x2

I'd just like to mention, that you have 10 globals (approx. 25 seconds) before you throw up Zerk and IR. You've missed every raid buff under the sun delaying that long. Compare this opener to DRG's opener for example, by the time you put up your buffs, the DRG in your party has finished their opener.