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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Discord is a tool outside of SE they can only control their end it's not rocket science to figure that out. That is more of a player based issue using a third party tool. IF SE can't prove it they can't band that goes for any company. Discord and SE are two separate entities. The only way to prevent anything would be to get rid of PvP. Of course people would just complain.
    You missed the point entirely. The advantage of Discord is somewhat assuaged were chat reinstated. Right now, we're dependent on silly phrases that rarely follow along specific strategies. New players have no idea what to do and veterans couldn't help them even if they want to. The devs want PvP to be taken seriously-- even citing e-sports. There is no competitive e-sports I know that restricts chat like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    You missed the point entirely. The advantage of Discord is somewhat assuaged were chat reinstated. Right now, we're dependent on silly phrases that rarely follow along specific strategies. New players have no idea what to do and veterans couldn't help them even if they want to. The devs want PvP to be taken seriously-- even citing e-sports. There is no competitive e-sports I know that restricts chat like this.
    I understand what you fail to comprehend is that Discord is a third party tool. I'm sorry but people can't understand simple phrases on what to do then seems like a comprehension problem. Good old education.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    I understand what you fail to comprehend is that Discord is a third party tool. I'm sorry but people can't understand simple phrases on what to do then seems like a comprehension problem. Good old education.
    How do you tell someone specifically the one with 50 medals to get the medals? Usually those are the ones who ignore the spam.
    How do you tell a tank to not get medals when they were already at 200 medals? Usually they ignore it and get 300 and wonder why the healer can't keep them alive.
    How do you specifically tell the melee dps to not follow the bait and break our healers LoS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jigokunoreizasan View Post
    How do you tell someone specifically the one with 50 medals to get the medals? Usually those are the ones who ignore the spam.
    How do you tell a tank to not get medals when they were already at 200 medals? Usually they ignore it and get 300 and wonder why the healer can't keep them alive.
    How do you specifically tell the melee dps to not follow the bait and break our healers LoS?
    For questions 1 and 2
    You do know some /em work in PvP right? how creative are you with commands?

    For the last Fall back and Flagging works for me when people don't listen. Then again not sure how Players are in Leviathan, Balmung for most part seem to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    For questions 1 and 2
    You do know some /em work in PvP right? how creative are you with commands?

    For the last Fall back and Flagging works for me when people don't listen. Then again not sure how Players are in Leviathan, Balmung for most part seem to understand.
    Emotes don't appear in the chatlog, so unless someone's paying attention to your character (I'm a lala so even worse) then that won't work.

    And Fall back is usually when it's to late, I'm saying How would you tell someone to not get baited BEFORE it happens. If you're already baited you already put yourself as well as our healer who had to rush over and save you out of position
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jigokunoreizasan View Post
    Emotes don't appear in the chatlog, so unless someone's paying attention to your character (I'm a lala so even worse) then that won't work.

    And Fall back is usually when it's to late, I'm saying How would you tell someone to not get baited BEFORE it happens. If you're already baited you already put yourself as well as our healer who had to rush over and save you out of position
    Well as much as I would love to give you those answers I'm sure if you stopped and test a few of them you could answer your self how to make it work in your favor. It's all about creativity sorry if your a Lala but there are some that can grab attention. Eureka for example helps, Zantetsuken, is another.There are a few of them. O well it's like beating a dead horse. To finish this conversation you have a few choices. Adjust to it or waste your time complaining about it. Become a leader by what you can do or become a follower and keep wasting your energy on things you have no control over.
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 08-17-2017 at 04:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    I understand what you fail to comprehend is that Discord is a third party tool. I'm sorry but people can't understand simple phrases on what to do then seems like a comprehension problem. Good old education.
    I see we're not done with the strawmen. You can keep dodging the point all you fancy, but your response has literally nothing to do with what I said. Let's try again. The chat restrictions puts players not using third party programs at a disadvantage. Your excuse doesn't change the fact it's a silly solution met with near unanimous disdain on the forums. Telling someone "get creative" is utterly asinine. Yes, it what is supposed to be a fast pace game style, I'm forced to jump through hoops to hopefully coordinate an attack. That doesn't bog down the game at all. Once again, you'll never see such convoluted systems in e-sports. It's quite telling more and more high level Feast players are outright quitting.
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