Creation(330) vs Crafted PLD weapon and shield

[Sarcatica]

Weapon is nice if you can get it but it is still essentially the group's competence. You wouldn't want to invest so heavily on a 3k dps Monk or Sam because they should be doing much more. I also do agree if you are doing less than 2k on any turn as a tank, it is indeed time to level up because O4S isn't kind to all the tanks and healers trying to clear. As a matter of fact, both tanks need to at least do 5k dps total and this is the least, this can never be achieved on a full tank stance tank.

[RLofOBFL]

Personally, I say don't bother with it. If your raid is failing a DPS check then replace the weak DPS. It's not your job as tank to make up for low dps. Others will argue with the "tank dps is important" but that's complete crap. Long as you can properly mitigate dmg and hold threat you are doing your job. High DPS is always helpful but it should never be your primary goal.

O3s enrage requires 23,500 dps....if healers and tanks did 0 dps, every DPS would need to do 6k dps. That's currently impossible <.<

[Paiyne]

So a bit of a hijack...but for War what's the BIS weapon. 340 or 345? Stats are kinda similar ish so I'm torn. Not sure how big 1 dps makes

[Thela]

So a bit of a hijack...but for War what's the BIS weapon. 340 or 345? Stats are kinda similar ish so I'm torn. Not sure how big 1 dps makes

Weapon Damage > Secondaries.

[Tristann]

O3s enrage requires 23,500 dps....if healers and tanks did 0 dps, every DPS would need to do 6k dps. That's currently impossible <.<

LB brings up to 2,2k Raid DPS in O3S.

[Ariyn]

O3s enrage requires 23,500 dps....if healers and tanks did 0 dps, every DPS would need to do 6k dps. That's currently impossible <.<

Lol @ all the comments. Seriously? You took what I said and somehow came back to "tanks can stand there and spam flash doing zero dps"? I said turning tanks into a bad dps doesn't help anyone. There are those who will argue against it and say that tank DPS is vital. If those people cleared O4S week 1, then yes they are absolutely right. But for the 95% of the player base that won't clear it for another month or more, that really is not the case.

As to this quote, I never said tanks doing 0 dps. I can gear 100% tank, meaning not fully slotting STR and DH and mostly going tenacity, and still do 2.3-3.2k. If your group needs tanks pushing more dps then that, then your group has a major issue not the tank.

So let's break this down using your numbers. Let's say both tanks do a measly 2.5k dps. Heals do 1.5k. That's 8k off your number which drops us to 15,500. Split that between the dps and you get 3875 each. That is attainable easily right now as most are over 4k. That is also not counting the multiple LB3s you have available. So no, not impossible at all