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    Suggestion to combat Mentors intentionally inviting RMT Advertisers

    With RMT Advertisers being invited into Novice Network often on some servers one cannot help but think a Mentor is doing it intentionally. However, we cannot prove this nor have any idea who it could be, which means we don't really have a strong enough case to present to Square Enix via reporting. Therefore, I propose the following change:

    Whenever a Mentor invites someone into the Novice Network, and that person accepts the invitation, other Mentors could have a message appear in the chat log indicating that person joined and who invited them. Example: Jane Doe has joined the network thanks to John Doe.

    Why should Mentors see such a message? Because if Jane Doe turns out to be an RMT advertiser, and John Doe is repeatedly re-inviting Jane Doe, then we know who the Mentor inviting that trash into the Novice Network is and not only can we report them for it but also kick them out of the Network.

    Why am I suggesting this in the first place? Because it is very much possible RMT Advertisers are using accounts with a Mentor on it to advertise in Novice Network, and it should and can be stopped!
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    Guildmaster of Power With Numbers (PWN) on Coeurl in Aether.

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    Any RMT bot I've seen in NN has a name that looks like a player name, unlike the ones that look like someone just hit a few random keys. I highly doubt RMT is being invited on purpose with the knowledge they are actually RMT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhais View Post
    Any RMT bot I've seen in NN has a name that looks like a player name, unlike the ones that look like someone just hit a few random keys. I highly doubt RMT is being invited on purpose with the knowledge they are actually RMT.
    That is why I believe they are invited by accident too, but the frequency at which they get invited lately, at least on my server, is suspicious. It could very well be a cover to throw suspicion off too...
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    No, the idea behind this is name and shame when it is a higher chance people do not know better.

    You want a change to excuse kick abuse, no. I am also disagreeing in supporting a change just because of an issue that exists on your server, mine does not have this issue, all bots have random letters for names, and there is never rmt advertising on the network.

    If this is really a problem, have better ideas? like maybe enacting a RMT kick option for leafs that remove them for longer and auto reports them to gms?
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    Last edited by Snow_Princess; 08-14-2017 at 01:05 PM.

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    I've got an easier idea... Just move the invite to Novice Network option away from the add to blacklist option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    No, the idea behind this is name and shame when it is a higher chance people do not know better.

    You want a change to excuse kick abuse, no. I am also disagreeing in supporting a change just because of an issue that exists on your server, mine does not have this issue, all bots have random letters for names, and there is never rmt advertising on the network.

    If this is really a problem, have better ideas? like maybe enacting a RMT kick option for leafs that remove them for longer and auto reports them to gms?
    Balmung doesn't have the issues because nobody can make the bots to get the sprouts.

    It is a problem on other servers. I got shoved in on Mateus and got to see it. It's not fun.
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    I said in Novice what they do but apparently people don't read. They use random name generator names now and will shout "mentors please invite me to the novice network" or some such like that. It's honestly an easy mistake to make since they don't have a keyboard smash name. I almost made the mistake myself until I remembered the post I saw either on here or Reddit talking about it. It's absolutely not a mentor colluding with RMT advertisers.

    Edit: Here is exactly what they say:

    Taken from this Reddit post.
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    Last edited by Seryne; 08-14-2017 at 02:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seryne View Post
    I said in Novice what they do but apparently people don't read.
    Where have you posted here before to claim people "don't read"? I find it funny this was said when my main point was missed:
    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    No, the idea behind this is name and shame when it is a higher chance people do not know better.

    You want a change to excuse kick abuse, no. I am also disagreeing in supporting a change just because of an issue that exists on your server, mine does not have this issue, all bots have random letters for names, and there is never rmt advertising on the network.

    If this is really a problem, have better ideas? like maybe enacting a RMT kick option for leafs that remove them for longer and auto reports them to gms?
    The TC suggestion is not a fix for it, just more people to abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    Where have you posted here before to claim people "don't read"? I find it funny this was said when my main point was missed:


    The TC suggestion is not a fix for it, just more people to abuse.
    Can you do me a favor and look at what server I'm on? I'm on the server that the OP is from. I said it in my servers Novice Network. My post wasn't directed at you at all so I'm really not sure why you thought that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seryne View Post
    Can you do me a favor and look at what server I'm on? I'm on the server that the OP is from. I said it in my servers Novice Network. My post wasn't directed at you at all so I'm really not sure why you thought that.
    It does not matter, it is missing my point. It does not matter what server you are on or the TC, what the TC suggested is not a fix and opens up more abuse. I tried to suggest something but it is ignored and idk why.

    For the other comment, I guess I misunderstood from the awkward wording.
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