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    Raikai's Avatar
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90

    Pvp frontlines is a miserable experience

    Or I'm terribly missing something here?

    Being a healer is frustrating. While I'm hard to kill, non-tanks die in 3 hits, I can only save people if I sort of guess that they'll take heavy dmg and pre-cast so those heals land in time... Other than that by the time I click on the player frame and hit my button, they are already gone.

    Being dps sucks because if you're in the front, is very likely that you'll be 2-shot by at least 3 ranged players.

    It's really meant to be like this?
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    bswpayton's Avatar
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Or I'm terribly missing something here?

    Being a healer is frustrating. While I'm hard to kill, non-tanks die in 3 hits, I can only save people if I sort of guess that they'll take heavy dmg and pre-cast so those heals land in time... Other than that by the time I click on the player frame and hit my button,
    bard op in pvp
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    Mirch's Avatar
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    Mirchea Luslec
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Or I'm terribly missing something here?

    Being a healer is frustrating. While I'm hard to kill, non-tanks die in 3 hits, I can only save people if I sort of guess that they'll take heavy dmg and pre-cast so those heals land in time... Other than that by the time I click on the player frame and hit my button, they are already gone.

    Being dps sucks because if you're in the front, is very likely that you'll be 2-shot by at least 3 ranged players.

    It's really meant to be like this?
    healers hard to kill lol?

    your team simply is not using an optimal way to fight other teams
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  4. #4
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    Raikai's Avatar
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    of course if you get focused and targeted by 5+ people you're goners, but I've managed to hold myself as a SCH against 3 people for quite some time
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    Rhinos Sandrock
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    My experience healing frontlines has been more or less the same as yours. As long as I position correctly I haven't had much trouble with getting focused down, since most teams have been uncoordinated. I've found that usually when I see a dps spontaneously combust, it's because they were suicidal and ran straight into another team. I try not to be too frustrated about that. Still, I've started to spec for pure healing/mp regen over defense in frontlines to help manage the chaotic damage.
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  6. #6
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    Shirolumi's Avatar
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    Nova Phantom
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Ss someone mentioned, bard and mch is pretty op in FL right now. Couple that with bad players that just rush in and try to hit only what is in front of them, they will die in 3 hits. If they don't know how to retreat or when to go in, they will die. Lots of pressure on healers but I've learned that as a healer I just filter out the bads and put the good people on the top of the party list, or people with Battle High/Fever on top and focus them instead. The others are just cannon fodder anyway, can't heal them.
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    Cidel's Avatar
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinos View Post
    I've found that usually when I see a dps spontaneously combust, it's because they were suicidal and ran straight into another team. I try not to be too frustrated about that.
    This is precisely the reason why non-tanks die "too fast" TC; it's not that healers are ill-equipped to rescue people, they're ill-equipped to heal through multiple (we're talking 3-4+) DPS bursting-down the same person. An over-extended DPS (especially a ranged) will melt if even a handful of people from an opposing team jumps on them. It's almost always on them; and I can probably count on one hand how many DPS I remember that actually try to place the blame on the healers for their own lack of spatial awareness. My personal fav to this day is a BRD during the HW era who not only overextended but was too slow to pull out during a retreat and literally went from 100% to 0 in a fraction of a second due to the sheer amount of enemies who jumped on him and proceeded to try to call-out the 3 healers in the party for not making him utterly invulnerable in that one moment it took to floor him.

    I love Deorbit on AST in Frontlines because I have the power to recognize incoming death-trains that my lovely tunnel-visioned melee might not see and drag them out of it, but alas, its wasted like 75% of the time because they immediately run back in to die within the next 5-10 seconds thereafter.
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  8. #8
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    Astrololol's Avatar
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    Shion Virai
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    I'm always torn between going DRG or AST in Frontlines, lol. It can be annoying on both, obviously. I have to "predict" the damage on AST too, it's easier to when you heal someone who's getting focused, of course. I get a lot of those people who like to be punching bags for a whole alliance, too, like...really? Sometimes I'll baby leash them out, but sometimes...they run back in. Or people who just stand in front of an alli even if they're being burned down, even had other healers do it. If I get a known botter in my group, they can burn for all I care. I went AST to help a SCH in specific once, then I looked at the scoreboard...guy was full of 0's. Nope.
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  9. #9
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    J'resha Solmo
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    Mateus
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    depending on when you que up your team may or may not be mostly bots.
    It's insufferable on aether right now, especially after 10pm.
    Getting freelanced to flames feels like a sick punishment of some sort.
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  10. #10
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    QT_Melon's Avatar
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    Qt Melon
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    bard op in pvp
    I dunno, DRGs are in a good spot too, the jumps snipe a lot of kills.
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