Pvp frontlines is a miserable experience

[AndrewAlexander]

I came here to find answers to why Frontlines has become so frustrating. I'm on the flames, and I can't remember the last time we won. Seeing as bots seems to be a common theme and that they're congregated on the flames, it all seems to make much more sense.

[Ilan]

I came here to find answers to why Frontlines has become so frustrating. I'm on the flames, and I can't remember the last time we won. Seeing as bots seems to be a common theme and that they're congregated on the flames, it all seems to make much more sense.

It became frustrating because it is the only usefull way to level right now if you play dps without a taxi (tank or healer) in your party.

[Sindele]

It's time to make Frontlines all-freelancer. This is pretty much as absurd as it gets.

[Cynric]

This is pretty much as absurd as it gets.

Haha. 4.1 Please look forward to it!

[Sindele]

Haha. 4.1 Please look forward to it!

Basically. Until then I guess everyone goes Mael/Adders, whee?

I needed these achievements anyway, I guess, I just hate to desert my boy Raubahn like that.

[Cynric]

Basically. Until then I guess everyone goes Mael/Adders, whee?

I needed these achievements anyway, I guess, I just hate to desert my boy Raubahn like that.

Nah man it'll probably be like 10 times worse when they launch a new pvp mode. so yeah look forward to that. at least then every team might have bots.. haha.

on the upside you might be able to get some wins on shatter at that point

[Brill_]

IMO, part of it is the 1v1v1 setup. Most matches I see one GC goes all out on the 2nd GC and the 3rd GC wins easily by getting uncontested ice. Then there's lack of healers and spawn camping. One match had zero healers in the alliance, adders sends their entire alliance and sits on our base. Couldn't push them off with no heals. Then they move towards the spawn point. Despite all the easy kills they had, they still lost to mael who ran around getting all the ice.

I'm just tired of shatter, wish they would delete it. Seal rock was much more fun.

[Raikai]

Still on this...

I get less frustrated now on a healer because I really realized after the posts here that some people dropping like flies are their own fault running to the enemy pack alone or not retreating when getting overwhelmed.

I'm currently leveling NIN and it's horrid to play melee. You only score some dps if the enemy ranged units are targeting something else... I wonder if it's the same with the other melee jobs. Just sucks spending most of the time waiting for the rez timer.

And why on heck NIN doesn't have hide in pvp? I mean, the staple of being a stealthy ninja is to... stealth? lol

[Zandeth]

And why on heck NIN doesn't have hide in pvp? I mean, the staple of being a stealthy ninja is to... stealth? lol

Because normal Hide was incredibly unfair if used right. And NINs do still have a way of hiding. Three Mudras -> Kakuremi -> wait out the duration outside of combat

Honestly in some ways new Hide is better because we can move normally while hiding now, it just has a timer to prevent what we did with normal Hide.

[Synestra]

Honestly in some ways new Hide is better because we can move normally while hiding now

Not only because of that but because you can use new Hide while in combat, old was annoying as sometimes you had to run across the map to lose hidden "in-combat" status.