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    Raikai's Avatar
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90

    Pvp frontlines is a miserable experience

    Or I'm terribly missing something here?

    Being a healer is frustrating. While I'm hard to kill, non-tanks die in 3 hits, I can only save people if I sort of guess that they'll take heavy dmg and pre-cast so those heals land in time... Other than that by the time I click on the player frame and hit my button, they are already gone.

    Being dps sucks because if you're in the front, is very likely that you'll be 2-shot by at least 3 ranged players.

    It's really meant to be like this?
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    bswpayton's Avatar
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Or I'm terribly missing something here?

    Being a healer is frustrating. While I'm hard to kill, non-tanks die in 3 hits, I can only save people if I sort of guess that they'll take heavy dmg and pre-cast so those heals land in time... Other than that by the time I click on the player frame and hit my button,
    bard op in pvp
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    QT_Melon's Avatar
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    Qt Melon
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    bard op in pvp
    I dunno, DRGs are in a good spot too, the jumps snipe a lot of kills.
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    UnrealTai's Avatar
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    Laernu Tairos
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    Maduin
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    I dont have much problems healing or dps as a mch.
    The only thing i may say is a problem are bots or people playing like they have an IQ of 20.

    "why that dumb nin run into a full enemy alliance alone" And i do mean IN to the alliance.
    Or people thinking theyre a Paladin staying within healing range, getting whaled on badly by 8+ people, but staying alive, and NOT retreating at all. Get the damn target off your head plz, jeezus.
    I let you die, we start losing, i heal you, then im just encouraging your dumbness.

    Anyway, my main complaint is the bots. They charge through an alliance and die, or just cause chaos.

    The worst of the worst of them is at like 4/5am est time. I swear Im the only human player and so many commands from the bots are taking place the entire match lags til i get 90002d off the server. Five days in a row now. (no its not the ISP lol)
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    Coldbrand's Avatar
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    Rodger Ritter
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    I dunno, DRGs are in a good spot too, the jumps snipe a lot of kills.
    Are you insane? If you "snipe" with jump your characters physical position is moved into range of all those casters and ranged. You WILL die. And if they do a pull on you while you're in range, that's it, you're toast.
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    Cynric's Avatar
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Cactuar
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Coldbrand View Post
    Are you insane? If you "snipe" with jump your characters physical position is moved into range of all those casters and ranged. You WILL die. And if they do a pull on you while you're in range, that's it, you're toast.
    Jump is a temporary position change, you go back to where you were when you used Jump after the damage is dealt. Spineshatter dive physically moves you. So that would be what you're thinking of.
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    Rodger Ritter
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    Jump is a temporary position change, you go back to where you were when you used Jump after the damage is dealt. Spineshatter dive physically moves you. So that would be what you're thinking of.
    No it's not what I'm thinking of, you shouldn't correct me if you don't know what I'm talking about. The time spent close to the enemy when using jump as a poking tool DOES physically move your character and DOES put you in range of tank's vacuums if they're fast enough to grab you. You are also physically in range of casters and ranged DPS when you do this, because your physical position changes, and while it's true you return, it's often an INCREDIBLY bad idea because you have no control over your character, the longer the jump, the more time spent powerless.
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Coldbrand View Post
    Are you insane? If you "snipe" with jump your characters physical position is moved into range of all those casters and ranged. You WILL die. And if they do a pull on you while you're in range, that's it, you're toast.
    No you won't die...at least not on my data center since people there are ignoring everything in frontlines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

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    Mirch's Avatar
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    Mirchea Luslec
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Or I'm terribly missing something here?

    Being a healer is frustrating. While I'm hard to kill, non-tanks die in 3 hits, I can only save people if I sort of guess that they'll take heavy dmg and pre-cast so those heals land in time... Other than that by the time I click on the player frame and hit my button, they are already gone.

    Being dps sucks because if you're in the front, is very likely that you'll be 2-shot by at least 3 ranged players.

    It's really meant to be like this?
    healers hard to kill lol?

    your team simply is not using an optimal way to fight other teams
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    Raikai's Avatar
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    of course if you get focused and targeted by 5+ people you're goners, but I've managed to hold myself as a SCH against 3 people for quite some time
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