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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoruno View Post
    Im sure you would be considering you haven't received a top 100 reward before. And your friends? Mine are here disagreeing with OP. Where are yours?
    How cheerful to know your one friend is posting here, Kudos... Anyway, back to the matter at hand:

    Nope, I've never obtained a top 100 item because I didn't like feast prior to the changes, much like you don't like feast now. Does you not competing in S5 mean you're bad at the game or that you couldn't earn it?

    Seriously, Yoruno calm down. I'm not attacking you at all, but look at your posts and your tone. Relax... It's not going to kill your precious top 100 if other players can work hard and earn the ability to get the armor and mounts. It'd do nothing but make PVP more enjoyable for everyone involved. Frankly, I'm hoping if this happens, it's the Pack Wolf sets that get added. Most of the people who won that were win trading anyway and that obviously doesn't take a great deal of skill.

    IF people wanna work hard and gain things, let them. Stop making a jerk of yourself, I know you're better than that.
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  2. #22
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    Most of the people who won the wolf coats were wintrading? You're clearly an expert on the topic.

    And I'm not against hard work? I've said a million times there is no such thing as a free lunch. That is exactly what we're trying to argue here. Did you miss that vital point? What is the point in trying your hardest to gain top 100 in competitive content when players get the same reward handed out a few weeks later?
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoruno View Post
    Most of the people who won the wolf coats were wintrading? You're clearly an expert on the topic.

    And I'm not against hard work? I've said a million times there is no such thing as a free lunch. That is exactly what we're trying to argue here. Did you miss that vital point? What is the point in trying your hardest to gain top 100 in competitive content when players get the same reward handed out a few weeks later?
    Your points are completely valid, I'll agree. You definitely shouldn't be giving away the current ranked sets for free. However, I have never implied it be free. If anything, the price should be very high. For example, if you get 5 tickets for placing gold, the coat should be like 15 tickets at least. That way people would at least get 3 seasons before it becomes available to players who reached gold 3 times in a row. Don't misunderstand me. I do think the ranks are important and I really, really am proud of players who are top 100. I just think that players should have the OPTION to work hard and gain things. Circumstance prevents many players from competing and making top 100. It doesn't make them any less skilled, it just means things happen. Everyone should work hard to obtain what they want, but there should be varying avenues through which you can work hard.

    That is the crux of my point. Again, I'll restate. Your points are definitely valid. I just think that you might be looking at it from one side without looking at it from the other as well. Again, calm down.
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    Last edited by RedHerb; 08-11-2017 at 03:03 AM.

  4. #24
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    People who've done 5 matches in total calling out on wintrading, lol. At least the 'wintraders' (according to you) have rewards you don't have. People are showing their jealousy a lot lately, have fun not having the gear/mounts other people have but you don't!
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterAdri View Post
    People who've done 5 matches in total calling out on wintrading, lol. At least the 'wintraders' (according to you) have rewards you don't have. People are showing their jealousy a lot lately, have fun not having the gear/mounts other people have but you don't!
    ?? I didn't participate in earlier seasons of feast. I don't do light party feast. Sorry mate if you're calling me a win trader you're mistaken.

    That said. I'm not jealous, seriously lol. You're reading into my post somehow when I blatantly stated my point. Again, I'll say:

    I'm very proud of players who are top 100 in each season. They are very skilled. Good for them!

    I am not a top 100 player. I don't generally have the patience or the free time, but I think it's great some people do.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoruno View Post
    I wish they'd remove the rewards, the exp, the tomes. Let's see who's left.
    Probably about 10 players or so, roughly the same amount that PvPed in the original Wolves' Den. (The Fold)

    I'd say at least half of the top 100 is only there for the rewards, and just sees pvp as the means to get them.

    What I think they could do with the season gear set rewards, is something similar to the Alexander Creator sets:
    A top 100 set - akin to the savage set, with noticeable differences to the gear models,and the ability to dye it.
    A non-top 100 set - bought with tickets, looking more like a base set, without the ability to dye it.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Probably about 10 players or so, roughly the same amount that PvPed in the original Wolves' Den. (The Fold)

    I'd say at least half of the top 100 is only there for the rewards, and just sees pvp as the means to get them.

    What I think they could do with the season gear set rewards, is something similar to the Alexander Creator sets:
    A top 100 set - akin to the savage set, with noticeable differences to the gear models,and the ability to dye it.
    A non-top 100 set - bought with tickets, looking more like a base set, without the ability to dye it.
    I think this would also be cool.
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  8. #28
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    I'm more than calm. And gold, 5 tickets? It's about as easy to get gold today as it is to order take away. You shouldn't be entitled to a top 100 reward EVER unless achieving a top 100 ranking.

    I'm sorry, let's just agree to disagree before you say something silly like you want the #1 trophy available for purchase with tickets.
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  9. #29
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    Players do have the option to work hard and gain things, its a competitive gamemode with rewards for being competitive,
    if you want rewards for mindless grinding, then you have plenty achievments to do and those new weapons you can work towards.
    The top100 rewards are rewards for people that try being better than the rest, the whole game is designed for casuals already.
    Hell getting into the top100 while being a complete casual is easily achieveable.

    The whole point you are making is you assuming everybody has the same mindset as you and your friends,
    but guess what there are people who strife to be better than everybody else, and you are trying to take the single prestige that those people can achieve.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Probably about 10 players or so, roughly the same amount that PvPed in the original Wolves' Den. (The Fold)
    .

    You clearly never played during seal rock days. There was no incentive in that besides tomes and most people were capped anyway.
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