Time vs. Reward, and The Feast Tickets

[Yoruno]

Probably about 10 players or so, roughly the same amount that PvPed in the original Wolves' Den. (The Fold)
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You clearly never played during seal rock days. There was no incentive in that besides tomes and most people were capped anyway.

[Nezerius]

You clearly never played during seal rock days. There was no incentive in that besides tomes and most people were capped anyway.

I wasn't talking about Frontlines, but specifically about The Fold. The Fold was the only PvP mode with pretty much no incentives, while the initial Frontlines (Carteneau Borderland Ruins) had the original ADS mount, and the three GC horses. Seal Rock had that one glamour set, and Fields of Glory had the white/blue ADS mount.

And pvp ranks were much more of a grind, so it was much more special to have the pvp set bought with wolf marks.

So no, there was plenty of incentive back then.

[loreleidiangelo]

I wasn't talking about Frontlines, but specifically about The Fold. The Fold was the only PvP mode with pretty much no incentives, while the initial Frontlines (Carteneau Borderland Ruins) had the original ADS mount, and the three GC horses. Seal Rock had that one glamour set, and Fields of Glory had the white/blue ADS mount.

And pvp ranks were much more of a grind, so it was much more special to have the pvp set bought with wolf marks.

So no, there was plenty of incentive back then.

The Fold still had titles, yeah? I mean, it's kinda foolish to say that removing all incentives from PVP is the way to discern the chaff from the wheat - I would have never even started had I not wanted the Swansgrace set so badly. But I also don't see the point in letting people get participation rewards in a ranked mode that's supposed to promote competition, either. If I stay in wood league playing a MOBA the developers of said MOBAs don't feel the need to give me a consolation prize. But there's also plenty of non-ranked modes I can play that let me earn stuff even if I'm not that great of a player - and we have that in this game already.

[RedHerb]

The Fold still had titles, yeah? I mean, it's kinda foolish to say that removing all incentives from PVP is the way to discern the chaff from the wheat - I would have never even started had I not wanted the Swansgrace set so badly. But I also don't see the point in letting people get participation rewards in a ranked mode that's supposed to promote competition, either. If I stay in wood league playing a MOBA the developers of said MOBAs don't feel the need to give me a consolation prize. But there's also plenty of non-ranked modes I can play that let me earn stuff even if I'm not that great of a player - and we have that in this game already.

This is another very good post. I'll even throw a like on it because I like how straightforward you're being with your opinion.

Are the participation rewards absolutely necessary? No, definitely not. No one is entitled to the armor at all aside from the people who were promised it for earning top 100.

That said, does it kill competition to allow participation rewards at the end of the season for players who make it to silver, gold, platinum, and diamond? Not at all. If anything, it'll bring more players to try and get better and climb ranks for chances at their rewards. Thank you for posting though, again you have a good point. There's no real benefit to anyone if the participation points are added, it's just nice to have options. =]