Dear Healers who don't DPS

[Mirch]

doing damage as healer in 2017

[Maku]

The opposite is even more annoying -- get a sync'd healer who lets you go to pretty much dead before he decides you need a cure because he can't be bothered to stop casting Stone over and over again. I have actually died, as a sync'd tank, because a healer thought that waiting until I had 100HP left (out of like 700) in a lowbie dungeon was a good idea.

It's like "Hey Sync'd WHM.... you DO realize that you have absolutely zero instant-cast heals, right? No Assize, No Tetra, no Bene... none of that. You're gonna let me go down to 2 hits from dead in a 4 mob pull? Seriously?"

Literally this whole thread can be summed up as "Bad healers are bad!"

[SlayerOmega]

Don't worry V4S has got you covered. Your Healers will be casting ONLY heals ALL THE TIME for that fight. They won't have time to DPS cause you'll all be too busy dying. lol

[Myrhn]

Nah I stopped receiving commendations since SB launch while DPSing in a dungeon so now i dont care if the dungeon is 5min longer. Funny story, i got in a dungeon and a tank sprint forward while i was casting protect, everyone got it except him so i asked why he run off and he said i have to cast faster. I was like ok... so i guess i dont have to dps since im a slow caster, and he said fine doesnt matter is only 5min longer. After a while he try to vote kick me because i was just standing there tossing cure here and there. The vote kick failed and he start demanding that the party choose between me (the healer) or him (the tank) saying that i wasnt dpsing. The party just wanted to continue the dungeon but he refused to pull on the first boss we end up just sitting on the line and he eventually got the penalty for leaving mid dungeon, and we got another tank and finish everything.

From my experience tanks this days think they are the ruler and ppl should bow to them. Ask yourself when u see a healer not dpsing do u ask them to dps or just keep the mouth shut? Even more do u ask the real DPS if they even care? This complain mostly comes from tanks not from dps.

[Celphi]

If I'm dpsing beyond just maintaining dots, we're all dead...

but I'm learning that I have no clue WTF is going on with SCH (left just before HW) and now working on BRD, so non-issue... Someone else will be healing, I get to pew pew and play music.

IMO:

Rule 1 - Don't die.
Rule 2 - Try not to let anyone else die.
Rule 3 - Pew Pew when you can, but only when 1 and 2 are covered.

If me pushing my damage to the max is what's needed to clear... we need better DDs.

[HolyTurtle]

Don't worry V4S has got you covered. Your Healers will be casting ONLY heals ALL THE TIME for that fight. They won't have time to DPS cause you'll all be too busy dying. lol

Haha, no. Your statement is the silliest one I have seen for a long time, showing your ignorance of V4S. Both healers have to contribute about 2.5k rdps to actually clear V4S. Healers only cast lots of healing for Almagest, and all Almagests (except one) happens once every 2 minutes.

[Rei_Zero]

Haha, no. Your statement is the silliest one I have seen for a long time, showing your ignorance of V4S. Both healers have to contribute about 2.5k rdps to actually clear V4S. Healers only cast lots of healing for Almagest, and all Almagests (except one) happens once every 2 minutes.

That mean pretty bad balance from SE. 1,25k mean aprox 50-60% dps time for healer and pretty much mana.

[Ftail]

Both healers have to contribute about 2.5k rdps to actually clear V4S.

It sure helps loads when both healers hit that magical number, but you can still clear V4 Savage with Healers doing less damage, "Neo Exdeath has a hard enrage of ~12:45 with a raid DPS requirement of at least ~24000" - https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...e_V4.0_(Savage)

4 DPS doing at least 4k damage each = ~16000
2 Tanks each at least doing 2.5k each = ~5000
Meaning both healers need to hit a minimum of 1.5k DPS each = ~3000

I've seen DPS pull above 5k and tanks go above 3k. I've seen healers go above 3k as well, but the main point I am trying to make is, it IS possible to clear without both healers getting 2.5k RDPS.

[Rei_Zero]

It sure helps loads when both healers hit that magical number, but you can still clear V4 Savage with Healers doing less damage, "Neo Exdeath has a hard enrage of ~12:45 with a raid DPS requirement of at least ~24000" - https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...e_V4.0_(Savage)

4 DPS doing at least 4k damage each = ~16000
2 Tanks each at least doing 2.5k each = ~5000
Meaning both healers need to hit a minimum of 1.5k DPS each = ~3000

I've seen DPS pull above 5k and tanks go above 3k. I've seen healers go above 3k as well, but the main point I am trying to make is, it IS possible to clear without both healers getting 2.5k RDPS.

That is even worse. He said 2.5k between both healers, you are saying 3000.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

That is even worse. He said 2.5k between both healers, you are saying 3000.

Average DPS of non MCH/SMN are around 4.2k, but I will agree the fact healers can DPS so much from the first week does lead to a failure on SE to properly balance the fight.