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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrismaticDaybreak View Post
    I'm sure Embolden is always aligned with your burst phase.
    Inner Release: 120s
    Berserk: 60s
    Embolden: 120s, unless they changed it when I wasn't looking.

    And oh, look at that. It lines up perfectly with my burst phase for a sextuple FC+Up+2Onslaught. I don't honestly care anymore, BLM is dead so long as RDM can buff DPS higher and higher, IMHO. I'll take bigger direct crits over a turret caster that loses on movement everytime all the time. At least BLM is good in dungeons, I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    The buff drops off over time. And in most fights BLM gives more damage than RDM's damage + rDPS. Its the same logic of taking a monk over a bard for speedkills; the pure damage outdoes the rDPS provided.
    The buff drops off, yes, but it still lasts the entire burst phase. It's even better with a MNK because MNK has Brotherhood, another 5% phys dps buff, and pair it with an RDM Embolden, and suddenly all your physical are hitting even harder! I know MNK is preferred over bard for speed kills. I also know BLM is "acceptable" but not "preferred".
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    Last edited by Thunda_Cat_SMASH; 08-06-2017 at 05:51 AM.

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    Bold words for someone who won't even try either class. And I don't know about you but Embolden isn't going off until at least 20-30 seconds after the fight starts depending on luck. They're not going to line up, similar recast doesn't mean simultaneous usage.
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    Last edited by PrismaticDaybreak; 08-06-2017 at 05:55 AM.

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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    At least BLM is good in dungeons, I guess.
    Only reason to run one is dungeons or if you know a fight frame by frame.

    But then again damage is all that matters in this game so if you clear 30 seconds faster then ho yay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Only reason to run one is dungeons or if you know a fight frame by frame.

    But then again damage is all that matters in this game so if you clear 30 seconds faster then ho yay?
    We'll I mean, BLM at least has a reason? For dungeons anyway, I've started avoiding PUGs with BLM just cause they're the ones that always die most. I prefer having Embolden for my burst anyway. The few BLM I find in PF are always super easy to convince swap to RDM instead too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    We'll I mean, BLM at least has a reason? For dungeons anyway, I've started avoiding PUGs with BLM just cause they're the ones that always die most. I prefer having Embolden for my burst anyway.
    Translation: Screw rDPS! My tank DPS is what matters! Please paladin senpai stop whipping me with your Holy Spirits
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Translation: Screw rDPS! My tank DPS is what matters! Please paladin senpai stop whipping me with your Holy Spirits
    Literally being part of the problem he keeps complaining about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrismaticDaybreak View Post
    Literally being part of the problem he keeps complaining about.
    Well, if you can't fight them, join them! The problem isn't going to go away, so I might as well embrace both the good and the bad.
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    Haters gonna hate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Well, if you can't fight them, join them! The problem isn't going to go away, so I might as well embrace both the good and the bad.
    Then you don't get to complain about RDM. You won't try BLM anyway, you won't try RDM. You won't believe objective data, and you're perfectly willing to just go along with it as long as it benefits you. You won't even listen to the devs when they say that your personal vision of "difficulty = damage" is not what they're about.
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    Last edited by PrismaticDaybreak; 08-06-2017 at 06:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    ...or if you know a fight frame by frame.
    Heavens to besty that you should have to learn a fight to optimize your damage windows, that's unacceptable. BLM should just be able to come right out of the gate with 5000 dps minimum.
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