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  1. #21
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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersun View Post
    "Oh they can just protect me while I'm fighting" Yes, and because of that you've just lost some 500-1,000 potency damage
    While I don't do that...

    2k+ AoE trumps 1k I'm pretty sure.
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  2. #22
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    Evelynddra's Avatar
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    Evelynddra Rose
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Sprinting while gathering adds minimized the auto attack damage they take, meaning they aren't starting at 50% health when they have everything gathered.

    Type while auto-running. Easy.
    I mean...not always. I've had more than my fair share of tanks running off and pulling everything. Only to be at 50% or less when I can actually start healing. Lord knows the second I think about healing while they are pulling everything something will come hit me in the face.

    Honestly, if the tank didn't notice the healer with him, then it's his bad entirely. Not running off without the healer seems pretty common sense to me. Probably best to make sure everyone is with you before pulling everything. Including DPS, because lord knows I can''t be spamming my big heal forever.
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  3. #23
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Considering everyone can freely use sprint, not using it seems like a waste.
    May as well go fast.
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  4. #24
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    Rurulu Namilu
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Pay attention to your tank's status bar and party list. If your tanks sprints, as a healer you have to sprint too. Both tank and healer sprints have to be in sync. Tanks sprint in order to minimize auto-attack damage from all the mobs pulled before the tank stops in one spot.

    If your tank is good with quickly gathering mobs (easy with PLD Flash), you can Regen the tank while sprinting right next to the tank. That way he will recover HP while gathering the mobs. However, if your tank is a little bit slower, do not Regen your tank.
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    Fried popoto enthusiast.

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    finders's Avatar
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    Finder Bades
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 60
    if everyone isn't using sprint than there is a problem.
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  6. #26
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowblind View Post
    I'll never understand why a tank would use sprint in the first place in a dungeon after aggroing a mob. Just run with your team . . . problem (mostly) solved.

    Anyway assuming you as the healer are geared properly and using heals over DPSing, if the tank still dies because he pulled a million mobs then the fault lies 100% with the tank.
    To reduce or outright bypass the damage taken by the first set of mobs while gathering another. Granted, he should always use it before entering combat for the double duration.

    The trick: you should run with the tank. Don't expect the guy under fire to walk to the next gather for you, prolonging that damage and making the process less safe.

    Also... you can run while typing. Auto-run is there for a reason. With a keyboard you can even type between GCDs or while clicking away your rotation with the other hand.

    Sprinting is not a tank trap, unless paired with people who aren't paying attention whatsoever. It's sanity. You should ALL be using sprint.
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  7. #27
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    Maeka Blazewing
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Sprinting is not a tank trap, unless paired with people who aren't paying attention whatsoever. It's sanity. You should ALL be using sprint.
    Unless, of course, the healer is trying to cast Protect.... because you know, 15% defense is nearly as powerful as a Rampart (last I checked, that's 20%). It + Rampart is a full one-third damage reduction, and to go sprinting off before you even have the buff is insanely stupid, and expecting the healer to stand there casting it AFTER the pull is even more ludicrous because heal spam is usually required to keep the tank alive early in the pull.

    The Healer COULD swiftcast it, but as a healer, I loathe doing this because about the time I do, a SC+Raise or SC+Cure 3 or SC+Cure2 would have saved the group from a wipe which costs far more time than waiting for a 3 second cast before mashing the sprint button.......
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  8. #28
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    Felix Feliday
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    The tank shouldn't be sprinting if the healer is lagging behind. It used to be fine to do this since the healer could Sprint to catch-up, but now if the tank sprints the gap between the tank and the healer isn't going to shrink.

    And before anyone mentions that the healer should just keep up, remember that healers often have relevant things to cast between pulls like a shield on the tank, or the healer might be pre-casting a DPS spell on the target the tank is going to pull. All of these things require standing still so healers will generally lag slightly behind the tank so before a tank hits sprint it's generally a good idea to at least check if the healer is close by first.
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  9. #29
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    Maeka Blazewing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersun View Post
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    Or those times that the Healer has to look away from the screen for a split second, because we healers are not FFXI Trust NPCs. We are humans who have very human RLs, and sometimes someone will pop in and talk to me RL, or my attention will be ripped away by something like the phone ringing, or maybe I'm trying to take a sip of water near the end of a pull and .....

    SOME... tanks will sprint WHILE THE FINAL MOB IS STILL ALIVE.

    I mean, really, dude? How about finishing the first pull before you begin the next?

    Or how about Loot Windows? As a healer, I need time to roll/pass on loot and the only time I get _IS_ between pulls. But, if the tank is going to mash his sprint button and take off like a rocket regardless of whether or not I'm ready... bad things will happen.

    It comes down to the tank thinking that he alone has authority over the whole group, when in fact the healer is more the deciding factor of who lives or dies. The tank can't tank anything without heals, lol. Him running away from the very thing that can save his life is not very smart.
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  10. #30
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    Or those times that the Healer has to look away from the screen for a split second, because we healers are not FFXI Trust NPCs. We are humans who have very human RLs, and sometimes someone will pop in and talk to me RL, or my attention will be ripped away by something like the phone ringing, or maybe I'm trying to take a sip of water near the end of a pull and .....

    SOME... tanks will sprint WHILE THE FINAL MOB IS STILL ALIVE.

    I mean, really, dude? How about finishing the first pull before you begin the next?

    Or how about Loot Windows? As a healer, I need time to roll/pass on loot and the only time I get _IS_ between pulls. But, if the tank is going to mash his sprint button and take off like a rocket regardless of whether or not I'm ready... bad things will happen.

    It comes down to the tank thinking that he alone has authority over the whole group, when in fact the healer is more the deciding factor of who lives or dies. The tank can't tank anything without heals, lol. Him running away from the very thing that can save his life is not very smart.
    I wish I could upvote this more.
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