A talent system

[Eli85]

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The problem is we have seen talent-like systems emerge in almost every game over the history of the genre. In every single instance it is: if you don't choose X then you are doing less output (and output is essentially the only thing that matters). The only time it doesn't matter is when an entire line is say, survivability or utility, but that always comes down to "this gives you the most survivbility so take it" or "for this fight this utility is better so take it." It's so bland and boring.

As for the meta? I think all players should care about it. I PUG a lot. My problem, I know. It's because of my schedule. Anyway, I rather take the choice OUT of the individual players hand if they conform to the meta or not. Just want them in the meta anyway. Gives a greater chance of more successful groups and less trolling / griefing (lol nub you aren't picking the best talent choices, /kick).

[Umbeliel]

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And that's totally fine and cool and good! We are friends here and you have my support- I'm just saying that if you don't want non meta people you can just make your own pf to exclude non meta people. Recruit people with specific specs.

The same way that non-meta people now(and, in most cases) wind up having to make their own friend circle or their own parties to do anything, because the meta is generally the norm.

That is, again, assuming squenix themselves completely fail to establish a rough balance with individual specs in the first place.