Sadly sayiing goodbye to SCH

[Supersun]

Not really viable until they decrease the MP cost of Aldo. Yes the numbers are equivalent, but the MP cost is leagues worse especially since Scholar has way worse MP recovery than Whm now.

I mean at the moment because of how high the cost of Scholar's spells are I try and touch them only as a last resort otherwise I'll quickly OOM just for using a couple of Cure IIs.

[Riyshn]

My "bias", as you put it, is a preference for only taking into account the value of the vastly more likely outcome in an uncontrollable random event (That any given spell will probably not be a critical. Specifically Adlo, and especially when under the effect of Emergency Tactics, which makes it a one-shot that can't be fished for.). Just skimming through your post, I count 3 different times that you seem to be assuming the opposite, that Adlo's crit power is somehow it's baseline that should be used to compare it to other skills.

So no, given that we don't live in a perfect world of godly RNG, I don't think I'll be reading the in depth opinions of someone who's starting from that assumption.

especially since Scholar has way worse MP recovery than Whm now.

MP recovery is higher than WHM, actually, with Quickened Aetherflow + Energy Drain. MP economy is worse, yes, because Thin Air is amazing.

[Starflake]

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But your point is a void one to make because as I stated: It's worse in one state, it's better in another state. And in the state that it does outshine Cure II (the crit one) it by far outshines it. So it evens each other out of some sorts. Overall, you can't spam Adlo Emergency tactics of course, but as a Scholar, you're not even supposed to. You're not even supposed to be using Physick all that much. You seem to be reading wrong as well. Because I have listed far more reasons as to why Scholar is great with its toolkit. A crit adloquim is just an exclusive fantastic shield to Scholar. Which can negate whole mechanics. No other class can do this. Yes, it takes a bit of luck, but it's amazing nonetheless. Look at the video I posted. The Gravitational wave AND Gravitational Manipulation did ZERO damage. It negated two whole mechanics. That's how powerful it can be and thus in it's base form, Adlo never, NEVER needs an increase in potency. Even without it being a crit, it's still a fantastic ability.
You are simply strawmanning me in order to put forward your incredibly poor points. I actually had a look at your own parse on O1S. Not only did you do almost double the DPS of your co WHM, you did more healing than him as well. This is not exclusive to your team either as demonstrated in the video I linked. I heal with an experience Astrologian who has been a healer since the starting days of this game. I average around 2K DPS on O1S and O2S while having healed almost the same amount as you! But I probably don't know SCH that well, right? I think you should climb out of your ivory tower.

[Silver-Strider]

Snip.

I do want to point out that there is a slight flaw in something that you said.
While Embrace does have a slightly higher base potency than Regens on WHM and AST, something to consider is the cast time for each of the fairy's abilities. The regen effect is put on hold whenever the fairy is asked to do any other action, be it one of its other abilities or even just moving the fairy, so those are seconds that the regen effect is just cut off entirely. Another thing to note, is that WHM/AST regens can be applied to multiple people, whereas Embrace is one person at a time.

I'm not trying to discredit what you're saying, just pointing out a small detail that is important to note as it does obscure the math involved to be more in favor of WHM/AST Regen.

[Starflake]

I do want to point out that there is a slight flaw in something that you said.
While Embrace does have a slightly higher base potency than Regens on WHM and AST, something to consider is the cast time for each of the fairy's abilities. The regen effect is put on hold whenever the fairy is asked to do any other action, be it one of its other abilities or even just moving the fairy, so those are seconds that the regen effect is just cut off entirely.

I'm not trying to discredit what you're saying, just pointing out a small detail that is important to note as it does obscure the math involved to be more in favor of WHM/AST Regen.

It's a good point to make. However, Embrace does not cost a GCD to the player himself. so I guess that is also something. I would say Embrace and Regen are basically worth the same. They all have their little things about them.

[Yeol]

SCH is by no means bad or weak.

If you are depending on fairy auto heals (Embrace), you are playing SCH wrong. The benefit of the fairy is her CDs, then sending her away for 20% healing potency and 3 stacks for extra dps or heals.

[Dregenfox]

I literally just pointed out earlier how scholars can achieve better HPS and mp efficiency over time than a WHM in single target. There's never any actual need to blow 3x lustrates at the end of AF, that's what energy drain is for. Scholar single-target healing is amazingly good, but they need another class casting AOE heals because that's where they're weak.

SCH being forced to spam succors is a bad thing. Use indom/ET when needed and leave the rest to WHM's, and let the scholar handle MT heals while getting DPS uptime.

AOE healing in dungeons doesn't matter much because I've never actually even come close to running out of mp in any regular content. Indom every 30 seconds + whispering dawn is enough for pretty much everything till raids.

[lulunami]

Yeah, go ahead adn take Physick off your hotbar. You're going to start having full party wipes due to your stupidity. Stop spreading lies to make yourself feel better.

To be honest, I do not use Physick in raid (O1S-O4S) anymore on SCH. Although Physick is SCH's most MP efficient GCD healing spell, you are better off casting Broil. Emergency Tactics, Indom, Excog, Lustrate, Fairy, Whispering Dawn, Sacred Soil, etc. are much better to use for healing. If something requires a SCH to stop dealing damage, SCH will not be using Physick unless for solo healing.

[technole]

Yeah, go ahead adn take Physick off your hotbar. You're going to start having full party wipes due to your stupidity. Stop spreading lies to make yourself feel better.

More like look at how many replies by good Scholars that agree with me. I don't have to make myself feel better, I know I am.

I'm on-record not using Physick much or at-all. There are much better options in the SCH kit to use. How about you learn the job correctly.

To be honest, I do not use Physick in raid (O1S-O4S) anymore on SCH. Although Physick is SCH's most MP efficient GCD healing spell, you are better off casting Broil. Emergency Tactics, Indom, Excog, Lustrate, Fairy, Whispering Dawn, Sacred Soil, etc. are much better to use for healing. If something requires a SCH to stop dealing damage, SCH will not be using Physick unless for solo healing.

Yep. Rouse+WD, other fairy buffs, and Indom is practically your on-cooldown skills in Deltascape savage. Helps the other healer not heal as-much and keeps damage up. Excog for busters and auto-attacks after. Physick isn't in this picture. Sure you might use it for a raise, emergency GCD when an oGCD like Lustrate, or tether isn't available. The tether is even so good to just "sit and forget the tank" at-times.

[Spiroglyph]

Used to think SCH got worse and after reading some of the latest comments found out im probably just not using my toolkit to its full potential. Need to give this another try...