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  1. #251
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    BlastHardcheese's Avatar
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    Happy (since you're quoting him as a source) has also said fairly recently that BLM is doing crazy damage accross the board.

    I dunno, I'm a fairly average player and I play PS4 so no parser but I can keep casting uptime through most fights without dying to mechanics, big numbers pop up and I'm constantly bothering the Tanks aggro lead. I feel like I'm doing OK.

    Meta is meta, it'll always exist and that's fine, BLM is in no way in danger of falling into MCHs current position and will find groups no problem, stop creating problems just because they fit your internal narrative.
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  2. #252
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    take note that if ppl think that the sickness is forgiving SE might just enforce the 50% main stat down right from the start (or simply doubling verraise and vercure cost)
    Honestly what angered said about the rez should be taken by their prospective, where each try counts, a normal static perspective should consider if wiping at enrage and wasting 15 mins is better than restart all over
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  3. #253
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormblessed9000 View Post
    Except it isn't (edit: to clarify, rdm is not doing more damage than blm) . If you look at fflogs BLM is beating RDM at every percentile. The gap is very small at the lowest percentiles but if they balanced around that, then RDM would be absolutely worthless at the top and BLM would be broken.



    RMG damage is punished very little for fight mechanics, making it one of the most consistent casters outside of it's moderately heavy reliance on procs.
    Looking at V3S...apparently there are some mechanics that destroy even Red Mage. Having to stick in a specific position for most of the fight, ie turreting, seems to be their weakness actually.

    And what I mean by "consistent" is, as soon as it stops damaging for any reason (rezzing) it's dps drops to 0. It has no secondary sources of damage aiding it at all, ABC hits RDM hard.
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  4. #254
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    Ayer Austen
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    After playing all three caster jobs, RDM needs more of a punishing mechanic for poor play. The job is ridiculously easy to play as is, meanwhile BLM and SMN can be quite unforgiving at times.
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  5. #255
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    It was dead, it was finally dead. What have you done?!?!

    But seriously, SMN is unforgiving if you die. Beyond that, the only irksome feature I've noticed is that you need AF to be up to squeeze as much damage out of Bahamut as is possible. BLM honestly doesn't seem that punishing. What if I drop Enochian? Did you drop it within the 30 seconds? Why? You have Tpose as an emergency. B-but my deeps! Then don't make a mistake. I dropped my ley lines wrong! Learn the fight better, or go back to your ley lines when the mechanic is done, you even have a teleport to it now. Literally what is so punishing about it?
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    Last edited by PrismaticDaybreak; 08-04-2017 at 10:07 AM.

  6. #256
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    RDM still needs a damage nerf IMHO. It offers far too much for what it has. Nerf it to around MCH's level and buff Embolden to affect physical + magical and it'll be much better balanced.
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  7. #257
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    Thela Ivora
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrismaticDaybreak View Post
    It was dead, it was finally dead. What have you done?!?!

    But seriously, SMN is unforgiving if you die. Beyond that, the only irksome feature I've noticed is that you need AF to be up to squeeze as much damage out of Bahamut as is possible. BLM honestly doesn't seem that punishing. What if I drop Enochian? Did you drop it within the 30 seconds? Why? You have Tpose as an emergency. B-but my deeps! Then don't make a mistake. I dropped my ley lines wrong! Learn the fight better, or go back to your ley lines when the mechanic is done, you even have a teleport to it now. Literally what is so punishing about it?
    For BLM basically if you're forced to move at the wrong time you're easily screwing over an entire astral fire cycle not just a couple casts but an entire astral fire cycle can go to waste very easily and that is a huge dps loss. If you drop enochian you may say no big deal can just activate it again, and while you can you just lost the time you had built up for foul which is your hardest hitting spell. But yes as you learn the encounter you also learn the timings and you can work around these issues not a problem.
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  8. #258
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    So what you're telling me, is a lot of the issues are solved by "Git gud"? (Not being facetious, legitimate question). My point about dropping Enochian was that it's easily maintained, there's very little reason it should drop.
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    Last edited by PrismaticDaybreak; 08-04-2017 at 10:24 AM.

  9. #259
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    RDM still needs a damage nerf IMHO. It offers far too much for what it has. Nerf it to around MCH's level and buff Embolden to affect physical + magical and it'll be much better balanced.
    Your opinion is also incredibly biased and you actively refuse facts which contradict your narrative. Red Mage is already lower tier damage if you look at FFLogs.
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  10. #260
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Your opinion is also incredibly biased and you actively refuse facts which contradict your narrative. Red Mage is already lower tier damage if you look at FFLogs.
    Just leave it, there's little point in arguing with them. We could get actual dev testimonials and it wouldn't matter.
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