Angel mount

[Greedalox]

I'm personally opposed, but the main retort these forums use to people not wanting certain novelty items is "Dun use it den". So eh.

[Krotoan]

I'm personally opposed, but the main retort these forums use to people not wanting certain novelty items is "Dun use it den". So eh.

A good argument against any particular gear is "it breaks the art style and looks weird against everything else"...
which WAS a valid argument.. till I got my little yokai glowy gocart mount and cartoony weapons. With that already in there it's hard to argue against anything else.

honestly I dont see them everywhere anymore but when i do it does yank me out of my little RPG flow.

but now the floodgates have been opened, why deny someone something they want ? especially if you can make it within the artstyle of the game.

[Greedalox]

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So your idea for fixing a bad glass of water is to poison the well, so to speak? The Yokai mount irks you and you rarely see it nowadays, so you want to give every person their silliest desires as a fix?

I dunno if I agree with the sentiment.

[Krotoan]

So your idea for fixing a bad glass of water is to poison the well, so to speak? The Yokai mount irks you and you rarely see it nowadays, so you want to give every person their silliest desires as a fix?

I dunno if I agree with the sentiment.

well.. if they want giant balloon wings and a sparkly halo with unicorn sprinkles coming off of it.. sure .. I'd have a reservation. But howbout it being ... as I said.. in artstyle? what does it hurt you if they add more things to the game that aren't glaringly jarring?

[Greedalox]

what does it hurt you

There it is. I see you weren't up for much of a discussion.

It doesn't hurt me- I just think it's exorbitantly tacky and misfitting. That's not to say there isn't other things I find misfitting to the game- but that doesn't make this an "all or none" situation.

[Krotoan]

There it is. I see you weren't up for much of a discussion.

It doesn't hurt me- I just think it's exorbitantly tacky and misfitting. That's not to say there isn't other things I find misfitting to the game- but that doesn't make this an "all or none" situation.

presenting my stance doesn't mean I'm totally opposed to hearing a reasonable argument.. you're being pretty obtuse. I'd love to hear a good reason for it. I'm not dismissing you, I'm asking for a well thought out and reasonable case for NOT implementing something besides "I don't like it and so it shouldn't be in the game."

late edit (apologies if you've already answered this): so.. where is the line? what makes the cut and what doesn't? why does having angel wings and flying not fit in a world where we can magically explode into aether and reform at crystals in any part of the world?

[Greedalox]

"I don't like it and so it shouldn't be in the game."

And at what point is your proposition of the polar opposite "Someone likes it so it should be in the game" not being obtuse?

I believe a middle ground is the solution, brings peoples ideas into the game if they're logically (Within the universe) sound and not absolutely an eyeroll like Angel Wings.

[Welsper59]

I'm personally opposed, but the main retort these forums use to people not wanting certain novelty items is "Dun use it den". So eh.

How is the "dun use it den" argument not valid in the context of video games and choosing to do something that is, in every single way, optional? I never understood the hate for an actually sound reply like that, regardless of how fitting in context it is, outside of the fact it serves as a valid retort to literally shut down complaints with a straightforward response. What would you tell someone opposed to the very idea of the glamour system for their own character?

People can have their reasons or opinions, and they should be allowed to openly express them, but it doesn't mean it makes those opinions good or important. As such, if it can be reasonably shut down by a simple response like "dun use it den", then there's a good chance it didn't mean much to begin with.

Side note: I do agree about the opinion of wings being tacky, as others have stated lol. Whatever though, if people want it, I see no reason to not ask for it.

[Greedalox]

How is the "dun use it den" argument not valid in the context of video games and choosing to do something that is, in every single way,

Long story short, you'd have a pretty haphazard game if "dun use it den" was the holy apex of reasoning on the addition of every thought that has ever gone through someones head.

I believe it to be the laziest retort. How can you compete with it when you give it that sort of power? I could ask for a flying underwater turkey taco cat dinosaur and you'd have to accept that it's a good idea because you don't have to use it. That's why I don't give that argument such obscene power in community discussion- because it would lead to a lot of dumpster fires if it was actually true and SE took it to heart all the time.

[Seniade]

How is the "dun use it den" argument not valid in the context of video games and choosing to do something that is, in every single way, optional?.

The way I see it, it is a valid argument... in a single player game. In an MMO, a player has no control over what others use as glamour, but are forced to still see it. Short of implementing a client-side option to turn off others' glamours, a player that doesn't like it still has to deal with it.

I personally just roll my eyes at ridiculous (imo) costumes and move on, but I've known people that won't touch MMOs because characters using the goofy or out of place glamours ruins the aesthetic for them.