My absence and return - thoughts on demolished houses

[Arutan]

Still say houses should be individual instances "in the deep woods", "on an island", etc. where you have a large, vacant lot to place outdoor furniture, multiple buildings, etc.

Pros: house for everyone
Cons: lifeless, no interest if it's to be alone

[Chiramu]

Try not to pay your bills IRL for a while we'll see if you still own a house

I wonder why people in MMORPGs bring up the, "it's just a game argument" when there is correlation to the real world like this? Love how people can pick and choose which argument suits their needs and ignore the other side that makes their current argument invalid :speak_no_evil:.

The one thing I don't like about posting on the forums, is the post limit and the fact that you need to log in within 14 days. Not being able to post without a sub is the same as what happens with the WoW forums too.

[Paladinleeds]

Pros: house for everyone
Cons: lifeless, no interest if it's to be alone

Airships and workshop exclusive crafts are locked behind housing (for FCs). I think it's pretty important they get it nailed down. Let's say you're on a server where nobody wants to sell their house (not even if you offered like 500 billion gil), and no FC with a house is willing to accept you into their FC, and all plots are taken, and you want to gain access to those FC exclusive crafts. Guess what, you're SOL! I'd rather have "lifeless" instanced housing if it means everyone can get access to it, than this current mess. And I speak as someone with a personal house and an FC house (though I don't own the FC). I just think everyone should have access to it, if they're willing to put enough gil/work forward for it.

[Geryth]

So many people are missing the point here. Oh well, my message is for Square Enix and I think they understand what I'm saying.

What so many of you don't understand is the disaster of a design that housing is that requires the deletion of inactive houses to begin with. My original post clearly notes that I understand the need for house deletions in the current model, and that apartments are a decent compromise.

What I'm telling Square, is that deleting 90% of my gil and investment of the game - something I spent hours organizing and making my own - makes it really hard to ever want to play again. They are turning players away that may have otherwise come back.

In a nutshell, they have a badly designed housing system with some of the most severely punishing consequences I've ever seen a game developer inflict on their player-base trying to take a break from their game.

[Penthea]

They are turning players away that may have otherwise come back.

The other side of it is they have lost players during when housing could not get demolished so there was basically zero hope of getting a plot unless you were able to fork out several times the cost of the plot to a house flipper.

I don't disagree with you, it's a s*** situation all round. Absolutely woeful. The housing system is one of the finest examples of lack of foresight I have ever seen in a game. It almost feels like an unchecked 1.0 mentality persisted with housing.

[Maero]

Had the housing system actually have been implemented properly (maybe instanced housing like Eso or other games) this would not have been a issue, but i guess the only solution giving the current system they can come out with.
The system needs a complete overhaul but it is kind of clear they do not want to

And yes i understand their intentions of not going the instanced route because they wanted more interactive communities but i have yet to see much interactions in housing areas, and it is not like people would not be able to visit if instanced..

[Masekase_Hurricane]

I stopped subbing to take a short break.

They implemented a terrible solution to a terrible problem, preventing me from wanting to resub.

Without an active sub, I had no outlet to tell them (on their official forums at least) why I was not going to resub. I would think that would be valuable information for them. Maybe I could have posted a reddit or something and encouraged someone to post it here for me.

I don't think the house is the reason you stayed away. The way I see it the other content obviously did not appeal to you to resub. With apartments, you now have the option of a permanent residence to come and go as you please without the risk of losing it. Now you have come back for 7 days and still the only thing that would make you stay is having a house with garden.

I think this game is wrong for you try the Sims 4 you get to decorate a proper house and will never lose it.

Yes, I think the current system is crap but at least it frees up some houses for people that will actively use it.

[Clethoria]

Honestly, I'd like to see how players like OP would deal with rent irl and/or in game. I know Yoshi didn't want it in XIV, but it'd certainly keep people from grieving over a lost house because it's a lot more direct about it being the player's fault for losing a home

Had the housing system actually have been implemented properly (maybe instanced housing like Eso or other games) this would not have been a issue, but i guess the only solution giving the current system they can come out with.
The system needs a complete overhaul but it is kind of clear they do not want to

Or go half and half like Aion. Every player who gets to lv22 gets a free apartment which is about the same size as apartments in game. If you want a cottage/estate you gotta bid for it and pay rent. Apartments are instanced and permanent. But full houses are not and can be walked in and out of at any time.

https://youtu.be/GOvrez6ngNI?t=4m59s

[Socomlord]

I can't believe you've harbored this anger for 2 yrs lol. 45 days is too short but it is what it is. Housing is limited so if you don't sub you don't keep simple as that I don't feel bad for you. Someone who stays active deserves it not someone who doesn't play.

[AlexanderThorolund]

. What sucks though is that I had no forum access to tell you my grievances two years ago.

OOOOH poor us. How have we all coped without your complaining! I'm surprised the forum didn't grind to a complete halt.