My absence and return - thoughts on demolished houses

[Geryth]

So many people are missing the point here. Oh well, my message is for Square Enix and I think they understand what I'm saying.

What so many of you don't understand is the disaster of a design that housing is that requires the deletion of inactive houses to begin with. My original post clearly notes that I understand the need for house deletions in the current model, and that apartments are a decent compromise.

What I'm telling Square, is that deleting 90% of my gil and investment of the game - something I spent hours organizing and making my own - makes it really hard to ever want to play again. They are turning players away that may have otherwise come back.

In a nutshell, they have a badly designed housing system with some of the most severely punishing consequences I've ever seen a game developer inflict on their player-base trying to take a break from their game.

[Penthea]

They are turning players away that may have otherwise come back.

The other side of it is they have lost players during when housing could not get demolished so there was basically zero hope of getting a plot unless you were able to fork out several times the cost of the plot to a house flipper.

I don't disagree with you, it's a s*** situation all round. Absolutely woeful. The housing system is one of the finest examples of lack of foresight I have ever seen in a game. It almost feels like an unchecked 1.0 mentality persisted with housing.

[silverlunarfox]

So many people are missing the point here. Oh well, my message is for Square Enix and I think they understand what I'm saying.

What so many of you don't understand is the disaster of a design that housing is that requires the deletion of inactive houses to begin with. My original post clearly notes that I understand the need for house deletions in the current model, and that apartments are a decent compromise.

What I'm telling Square, is that deleting 90% of my gil and investment of the game - something I spent hours organizing and making my own - makes it really hard to ever want to play again. They are turning players away that may have otherwise come back.

In a nutshell, they have a badly designed housing system with some of the most severely punishing consequences I've ever seen a game developer inflict on their player-base trying to take a break from their game.

I don't think anyone is missing the point persay....

So you understand about the housing model as it is, yet because it happened to you and your house youre upset..........

I'm pretty sure on a whole Square doesn't care, since someone else will happily take up the plot you are not using. Esp on the busier servers, you just made someones day for not playing! So no, they are not turning players away. Old and new players rotate in and out on their own. If someone is letting a house in a game be the reason they quit, so be it. Someone else will benefit.

In a nutshell, it's basically badly designed for someone like you who decided to make a huge fuss...over a tiny part of the game *(unless you have an FC)*

Plenty of FC's have no house. Just consider your house demo a contribution for the greater good and move on. It sounds like you already have.

Even when taking a break from the game, I can manage to find a minute to log in, walk in my house, and walk out.

[Geryth]

I don't think anyone is missing the point persay....

So you understand about the housing model as it is, yet because it happened to you and your house youre upset..........

No. I LET it happen to my house, to let my money do the talking. I won't financially support their terrible design decisions. This whole post is me simply finally being able to tell them why I stopped giving them my money. Apartments might be enough to get me back, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm out millions of gil and worse, the house I meticulously created and loved. You can blame that on me all you want but it was SE's decision to put terrible limits on housing and SE's decision to punish players for taking breaks and SE who deleted my stuff.

I'm pretty sure on a whole Square doesn't care

Maybe, maybe not. The least I could do is tell them why I stopped giving them my business. Whether or not it changes the way they feel about how they've designed housing I'm sure it's something they desire to know.

...since someone else will happily take up the plot you are not using. Esp on the busier servers, you just made someones day for not playing! So no, they are not turning players away. Old and new players rotate in and out on their own. If someone is letting a house in a game be the reason they quit, so be it. Someone else will benefit.

And there you are again, missing the point of my post. People keep saying "well on the other end someone gets to have a house now, someone benefited from your leaving." It's terrible design to have someone who can't take a break or risk losing countless hours of their work, at the expense of someone else not having access to content they would like to acquire. That's where people miss the point of my post - they fail to see what the system could have been, and that no one should have had to have such severe negative consequences inflicted on them. They are only looking at my post within the walls that SE placed around housing, that don't have to be there (and should never have been there).

In a nutshell, it's basically badly designed for someone like you who decided to make a huge fuss...over a tiny part of the game *(unless you have an FC)*

Umm no, housing is NOT a "tiny part of the game". My house was one of the main things that I enjoyed most about the game. A solid percentage of my time was spent farming gil to buy, build, and furnish that house.

Plenty of FC's have no house. Just consider your house demo a contribution for the greater good and move on. It sounds like you already have.

The fact that I had to lose my house so a FC could get one is a huge clue as to how bad the system is.

Even when taking a break from the game, I can manage to find a minute to log in, walk in my house, and walk out.

How can you walk in your house if you're taking a break (ie not subbed)?