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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowblind View Post
    But . . . how? Don't they need MP? And more importantly, why??? That couldn't possibly be fun o_o
    Couple months ago before SB, I did a Sohm Al HM with a drk tank with no Darkside and Flash. I tried to tell em to use Unleash and Flash, they said no it drains mp.

    I left and went to bed after that.
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  2. #92
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    Couple months ago before SB, I did a Sohm Al HM with a drk tank with no Darkside and Flash. I tried to tell em to use Unleash and Flash, they said no it drains mp.

    I left and went to bed after that.
    ...Didn't they realize that they had two abilities to recover MP rather easily? I mean, DRK back before SB was super easy to keep your MP up. Haven't played DRK in SB yet, so can't comment on it now. It was rare(usually because I wasn't paying attention) that I would run out of MP and be unable to cast something...but it was a super fast fix.
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  3. #93
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyluv View Post
    TL;DR: If the healer isn't helping DPS, think if you could do something differently to make them feel like it's safe to help. If you feel you're doing what you should, look at the other two.
    When the tank is above 60-75% the entire run and the healer is only needing to cast basic cures because the tank is taking so little damage, that's a pretty good sign they're phoning it in.
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    ...Didn't they realize that they had two abilities to recover MP rather easily? I mean, DRK back before SB was super easy to keep your MP up. Haven't played DRK in SB yet, so can't comment on it now. It was rare(usually because I wasn't paying attention) that I would run out of MP and be unable to cast something...but it was a super fast fix.
    The problem was they couldn't expend the MP fast enough so they thought it was a good thing when it wasn't. You can't lose Darkside anymore if it's on you and you hit 0 mana you won't lose it so before there wasn't a reason not to have it and now there's just no excuse.

    As for that Drk if he couldn't figure out how to manage his MP and ignore Flash then there's no hope for em sadly.
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  5. #95
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    Ahraliah Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Words.
    Or the DPS are being idiots. I recently had a monk that was so concerned about doing the most DPS, they wouldn't move out of stacked AOE indicators. If they weren't one shot from it, I'd have to stop dpsing to heal them. Eventually it ticked me off so much that I just put Regen on them. The tank was using proper cool downs, but the monk was doing literally everything he could to rip hate off the tank. He died 7 times total in that run because he stood in AOE and ended up tanking his targeted mob instead of using AOE on big trash pulls.

    "I wouldn't had died if the healer did their effing job." When literally all I could afford to do almost the entire run except for some bosses, was heal and sometimes throw a DoT out. He made the pulls take longer by not aoeing the whole pack. And put more strain on me by intentionally ripping the one mob off of the tank and standing in AOE.
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  6. #96
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    As for that Drk if he couldn't figure out how to manage his MP and ignore Flash then there's no hope for em sadly.
    In regards to Flash...I never used it as a DRK anyways. Unleash had the same(or damn near close to) range as Flash, especially since it dealt damage at the same time. I did see some DRK use it, but not very often.
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  7. #97
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyluv View Post
    Or the DPS are being idiots. I recently had a monk that was so concerned about doing the most DPS, they wouldn't move out of stacked AOE indicators. If they weren't one shot from it, I'd have to stop dpsing to heal them. Eventually it ticked me off so much that I just put Regen on them.
    You did absolutely the right thing there. I've had more than my fair share of wipes due to habitually throwing a GCD heal on a DPS and losing the Tank to a big pull in the process. I don't mind DPS that are a little greedy and take an aoe if it's safe to do so, especially if CU or Asylum are ticking mind, but there's a fairly fine line where it goes from being beneficial to an outright nuisance =(
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  8. #98
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    Arngrim Lightheart
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    People with that kind of attitude never make it far in this game. Think before you run your mouth.
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  10. #99
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    Shiro Terkhev
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 80
    I don't mind it that much in higher level dungeons, but when I get synced healer in satasha or copperbell and he stands still or just jumps around most of fights it gets really annoying.
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    Maeka Blazewing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terkhev View Post
    I don't mind it that much in higher level dungeons, but when I get synced healer in satasha or copperbell and he stands still or just jumps around most of fights it gets really annoying.
    The opposite is even more annoying -- get a sync'd healer who lets you go to pretty much dead before he decides you need a cure because he can't be bothered to stop casting Stone over and over again. I have actually died, as a sync'd tank, because a healer thought that waiting until I had 100HP left (out of like 700) in a lowbie dungeon was a good idea.

    It's like "Hey Sync'd WHM.... you DO realize that you have absolutely zero instant-cast heals, right? No Assize, No Tetra, no Bene... none of that. You're gonna let me go down to 2 hits from dead in a 4 mob pull? Seriously?"
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