A detailed Reaction to Warrior in SB

[Kyrph]

1.

I don't really think getting to the boss quicker would be dps lost at all really. With most countdowns the boss will be pulled at the same time no matter what and not have to reposition the boss the few steps it took when you engaged would actually be a dps increase.

2.

I went over this on my last post but having knowledge of a fight easily fixes the problem of having it off CD when you need it since most fights are scripted and can account for when you would need it. So it would just change for some fight where it would help the warrior. Sometimes you use a BG ability and don't have the resources to use the ability when you might need to dodge or use the gap closer. So it shifts from BG management to managing its CD. If anything this just lets you use the ability more and would be nice for single target fights when I want to stay in my dps stance and get some free threat. This answers 3 as well.

[Falar]

Yes I wanted to comment more on DRK (Specially the lack of OGCD's, the nerfed self healing, and some other strange changes like dark dance being gone and delirum the combo being removed making it have less utility, among other things) but since I don't have it at 70 (64 right now) I didn't want to comment to much on things I hadn't personally experienced. (and I don't even understand in the slightest, quietus. It seems so useless especially with a blood cost of 50)That being said, DRK suffers from a lot of faults IMO with the few team utilities is has being its only saving grace from (imo) being worse then WAR.

And I don't mean to act like the issues we face are any worse then yours, just that from a utility standpoint DRK still has some benefits! We really need to band together to make our voices heard for both classes!

On a side note, as for why I say IMO in front of like everything, it's so people can't go "OMG STOP ACTING LIKE WHAT YOU SAY IS A FACT!" because apparently if I don't add a disclaimer before everything, people get to ignore what I say because I said it like it was a fact.

Just ran into you in-game. Small world.

[Tegernako]

Just ran into you in-game. Small world.

Yep and since then my opinion on DRK has sunk even lower, especially since they addressed one of the core issues with WAR right now with stance dancing penalty being gone.

Also I'm glad you dropped in to say hi!

I really enjoyed our talk.

[Falar]

Yep and since then my opinion on DRK has sunk even lower, especially since they addressed one of the core issues with WAR right now with stance dancing penalty being gone.

Also I'm glad you dropped in to say hi!

I really enjoyed our talk.

When you referenced this thread, I thought to myself " surely I responded on pg 2 or 3....." and lo and behold.

[Tegernako]

When you referenced this thread, I thought to myself " surely I responded on pg 2 or 3....." and lo and behold.

Haha when I saw your avatar on the forums I was like, I think i've seen them before but I odn't know for sure lol

This seriously makes it even crazier that we met each other. What are the chances?

[Shurrikhan]

I don't really think getting to the boss quicker would be dps lost at all really. With most countdowns the boss will be pulled at the same time no matter what and not have to reposition the boss the few steps it took when you engaged would actually be a dps increase.



I went over this on my last post but having knowledge of a fight easily fixes the problem of having it off CD when you need it since most fights are scripted and can account for when you would need it. So it would just change for some fight where it would help the warrior. Sometimes you use a BG ability and don't have the resources to use the ability when you might need to dodge or use the gap closer. So it shifts from BG management to managing its CD. If anything this just lets you use the ability more and would be nice for single target fights when I want to stay in my dps stance and get some free threat. This answers 3 as well.

1. Except most times you want the boss nearer to the center of the dungeon than its starting position, and nearer to your raid during the pull itself. The time spent putting it back costs no DPS; melee can follow it in with no interruption to positionals. The half second longer by which melee cannot reach it does cost DPS. And if you want it to stay almost exactly in place, you need only Sprint.

2. Except you then turn it into something of the likeness of Plunge and Shoulder Tackle. The intended maximum DPS of MNK and DRK will account for the skill being used on CD. When it is not, you fall below. Perhaps not noticeably, granted, but why make it so your maximum DPS is penalized for saving a skill when right now the skill's use, apart from tuning to windows (Berserk, Inner Release, Infuriate) and enmity, is not so constricted? It's an unnecessary nerf, to both maximum DPS in fights that would require its CD to be saved and to the Warrior's depth and freedom. If Warrior is objectively underpowered right now, there are plenty of other ways to make up for that than messing with so well-tuned an ability.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Onslaught is beautiful as is! If you need to change something, change something else.

[Deceptus]

Onslaught needs to be a resource generator, not a resource user.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Onslaught needs to be a resource generator, not a resource user.

We already have a resource generator, Infuriate. No thanks.

[Shinkyo]

Onslaught needs to be a resource generator, not a resource user.

We need a gauge dump to properly manage it and that's the main use of Onslaught really.
The skill is just fine as it is. Maybe a potency increase to 120 would be nice.