Sadly sayiing goodbye to SCH

[Spiroglyph]

AST cannot spread both a crit shield AND Eye for an Eye to every member of the party.

To be fair, neither can schs most of the time :^)

Can't really fish for critlo because of the high cost, and if spreading eye was kinda pointless before now it's even moreso since it takes up a role skill slot which you could use for something else... like CS.

[jstamos]

To be fair, neither can schs most of the time :^)

Can't really fish for critlo because of the high cost, and if spreading eye was kinda pointless before now it's even moreso since it takes up a role skill slot which you could use for something else... like CS.

Neither of those points actually disprove the fact that we can do both of those things and ASTs cannot. Non-crit shields can still be deployed, Eye can still be deployed, neither of these things are doable by an AST.

[Riyshn]

Neither of those points actually disprove the fact that we can do both of those things and ASTs cannot. Non-crit shields can still be deployed, Eye can still be deployed, neither of these things are doable by an AST.

That would be because AST doesn't need to spread their shields. Noct Aspected Helios is already a larger shield than a non-crit Adlo, and is on the GCD instead of being locked behind Deployment Tactics's 120sec CD.

[jstamos]

That would be because AST doesn't need to spread their shields. Noct Aspected Helios is already a larger shield than a non-crit Adlo, and is on the GCD instead of being locked behind Deployment Tactics's 120sec CD.

...yeah except we also have Succor, so you can save DT until you got a crit, if you wanted.

And let's be real: of all the healer skills that are teed up for the nerf bat, Noct shields are #1.

[Riyshn]

...yeah except we also have Succor, so you can save DT until you got a crit, if you wanted.

And let's be real: of all the healer skills that are teed up for the nerf bat, Noct shields are #1.

Succor is in no way equivalent to Noct Asp.Helios or Deployed Adlo.

Succor: 150p (AoE)
Crit Succor: 210p (AoE)
Adlo: 300p (Single Target, Deployable on 120sec CD)
Crit Adlo: 840 (Single Target, Deployable on 120sec CD)

Asp.Helios: 258.75p (AoE)
Crit Asp.Helios: 362.25p (AoE)
Asp.Benefic: 575p (Single Target)
Crit Asp.Benefic: 805p (Single Target)

The only time SCH comes out on top is with a Critlo, and even then it's only by 35p. And we can't exactly rely on being able to get a crit. We can't even reasonably fish for them any more with the stat rebalances from the expansion and Adlo's increased cost.