Sadly sayiing goodbye to SCH

[Ftail]

Would Miasma II be worth using up close over Broil because of the potential auto attack? Not sure if an extra book swing would be enough to make up 20 potency or not.

Ideally, if you can stand still for the entire fight, say on a practice dummy, you will never want to weave in Miasma II on a single target.

Broil II > Miasma II

However, because most fights force you to move at some point, being able to get on a 3rd set of dots to tick while you run away spamming Ruin II during movement phases will help maximize your DPS. Basically, lower DPS is better than no DPS during mechanic phases where you can't stay still to cast Broil II.

Edit: Using auto attacks, won't make up the difference.

[Sunako]

Ideally, if you can stand still for the entire fight, say on a practice dummy, you will never want to weave in Miasma II on a single target.

Broil II > Miasma II

However, because most fights force you to move at some point, being able to get on a 3rd set of dots to tick while you run away spamming Ruin II during movement phases will help maximize your DPS. Basically, lower DPS is better than no DPS during mechanic phases where you can't stay still to cast Broil II.

Edit: Using auto attacks, won't make up the difference.

If you watch that 2.9k sch parse in o1s. That sch have used 25x miasma 2 in this fight.

[Riyshn]

Ideally, if you can stand still for the entire fight, say on a practice dummy, you will never want to weave in Miasma II on a single target.

Broil II > Miasma II

However, because most fights force you to move at some point, being able to get on a 3rd set of dots to tick while you run away spamming Ruin II during movement phases will help maximize your DPS. Basically, lower DPS is better than no DPS during mechanic phases where you can't stay still to cast Broil II.

Edit: Using auto attacks, won't make up the difference.

Miasma II + Energy Drain (plus letting the M2 DoT run it's duration) is more DPS than clipping the GCD with Broil II + Energy Drain. Really, if you can spare the time for Miasma II's animation, you're better off using it for just about every oGCD that you don't have Bio II for, rather than clipping.

[Ftail]

If you watch that 2.9k sch parse in o1s. That sch have used 25x miasma 2 in this fight.

I never said you should never use Miasma.

Miasma II + Energy Drain (plus letting the M2 DoT run it's duration) is more DPS than clipping the GCD with Broil II + Energy Drain. Really, if you can spare the time for Miasma II's animation, you're better off using it for just about every oGCD that you don't have Bio II for, rather than clipping.

With aetherflow stacks being used for our other abilties, Excog, Indom, Lustrate, and Sacred Soil I rarely ever use more than 1 energy drain. I try to never use energy drain after Broil II for obvious reasons. Also I already Miasma II + Energy Drain for movement mechanics. I see the point you are trying to make, but you are making assumptions as to my play style.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1847055036

[NobleWinter]

Can anyone tell me how exactly these two skills work together if your original target for Adloquium takes damage before Deployment disperses the barrier to other players. Is the Adloquium Barrier given to other players going to be at the full strength you casted it or the reduced version since your primary target took damage? Tanks are my normal target for Adlo and as such they take a few hits between adding Eye for an Eye and then Deployment Tactics more often than not.

[sumiree]

Can anyone tell me how exactly these two skills work together if your original target for Adloquium takes damage before Deployment disperses the barrier to other players. Is the Adloquium Barrier given to other players going to be at the full strength you casted it or the reduced version since your primary target took damage? Tanks are my normal target for Adlo and as such they take a few hits between adding Eye for an Eye and then Deployment Tactics more often than not.

I macroed it to target my fairy as the point of disperse.
then you can manually adjust where you want to put your fairy

[Riyshn]

Can anyone tell me how exactly these two skills work together if your original target for Adloquium takes damage before Deployment disperses the barrier to other players. Is the Adloquium Barrier given to other players going to be at the full strength you casted it or the reduced version since your primary target took damage? Tanks are my normal target for Adlo and as such they take a few hits between adding Eye for an Eye and then Deployment Tactics more often than not.

It deploys the current shield value. Generally if you're planning a Deploy, you want to do it off either the fairy (so you can control the position), or an OT WAR to get the boost from Convalescence + Defiance.

I never said you should never use Miasma.



With aetherflow stacks being used for our other abilties, Excog, Indom, Lustrate, and Sacred Soil I rarely ever use more than 1 energy drain. I try to never use energy drain after Broil II for obvious reasons. Also I already Miasma II + Energy Drain for movement mechanics. I see the point you are trying to make, but you are making assumptions as to my play style.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1847055036

I'm well aware of the numbers, thank you. And I'm not making any assumptions about your playstyle. Note that I said it would work for "just about every oGCD that you don't have Bio II for". So not so much for all Lustrates or Indoms, but things like Excog, where you don't need it applied right at this second? Better to hit Miasma II and use the oGCD ability during the GCD, rather than clipping after a hardcast for no reason.

[Rawrz]

I never said you should never use Miasma.



With aetherflow stacks being used for our other abilties, Excog, Indom, Lustrate, and Sacred Soil I rarely ever use more than 1 energy drain. I try to never use energy drain after Broil II for obvious reasons. Also I already Miasma II + Energy Drain for movement mechanics. I see the point you are trying to make, but you are making assumptions as to my play style.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1847055036

In the post I wrote just before your first post I said that even weaving Lucid was enough to make miasma II a dps gain, not even counting the sps dot bonus it gets.

One ogcd = 1 second. Thats a potency loss of (1/2.5)*230>>> 30. Therefore by weaving it with miasma II you save gcd clipping = dps gain. Any ogcd ability will do.

[Hysterior]

Been a SCH since 2.0 and made the change to AST, no regrets for now.
It's not a question of DPS or healing or even mana, there is simply nothing a SCH can do than an AST cannot.

[Pyitoechito]

Been a SCH since 2.0 and made the change to AST, no regrets for now.
It's not a question of DPS or healing or even mana, there is simply nothing a SCH can do than an AST cannot.

There is at least one thing: AST can't provide regen and shields at the same time.

SCH has shields by default, with Eos' Whispering Dawn for AoE regen (and Embraces are like a pseudo-regen). WHM has multiple regen effects, while also gaining Divine Benison late in the game for a single-target shield.