So uh... whats up with the end game gear designs lately?

[ErryK]

That's a stretch.
There are plenty of other designs that they could have gone for without crossing over into your "THOT" gear.

Except, the person you quoted literally has a post above them showing such "Thot" gear.

Also, this gem in the very same thread we're talking within.

[Skivvy]

Except, the person you quoted literally has a post above them showing such "Thot" gear.

Also, this gem in the very same thread we're talking within.

There are two pictures in a thread of 100+ replies. How does that sum up the thread as everyone just wanting more hoochie gear?

[ErryK]

There are two pictures in a thread of 100+ replies. How does that sum up the thread as everyone just wanting more hoochie gear?

That's just two examples, I didn't state it as fact, but it's prevalent that revealing gear is what people want. I'm not surprised though, most guys playing female characters like something "nice" to look at.

[Syfurion]

That's just two examples, I didn't state it as fact, but it's prevalent that revealing gear is what people want. I'm not surprised though, most guys playing female characters like something "nice" to look at.

Not to be that guy, but being that guy. The sheer number of half-naked catboys and male roe running around tells me that it swings both ways on people wanting revealing gear. Maybe not in the examples in this thread, but there are plenty of examples around.

Personally, I'd agree that the Omega armour looks pretty terrible, especially coming off the heels of the Ala Mhigan armour, which I'm extremely fond of the fending version of. I don't mind the Lost Allagan stuff, but I feel like the dyeable version will help it significantly.

[Kosmos992k]

Except, the person you quoted literally has a post above them showing such "Thot" gear.

Also, this gem in the very same thread we're talking within.

There are two pictures in a thread of 100+ replies. How does that sum up the thread as everyone just wanting more hoochie gear?

Hi Skivvy, obviously as you say, it doesn't. Nor does it really address the point of the reply that Erryk is referencing out of context. That reply was a jokey reply intended to play on the stereotype of bikini armor. I thought that was clear to everyone at the time. Granted, Kos does wear bikini armor sometimes, but to be honest that's more of a reaction to the annoying gear designs that boil down to being encased in metal armor that makes me look like a dude, or in lighter gear that is simply drab to look at. Up until yesterday, Kos was wearing the PLD AF gear, though today she glamoured into the Shisui.

Erryk You should read the post you references and the context it is in. It's clearly a fun reply and not entirely serious.

I have posted numerous times that I would like to see feminine armor, that is armor suited to the feminine shape and style, that does NOT mean bikinis and stripper heels thank you very much.

for example ;



And this being a perfect example of what I mean given that it was part of the tank gear design contest here (Note: this was my favored design in that competition, I was disappointed when what appeared to be more Allagan gear won the day);


Or perhaps something more fantastical (though this look needs a skirt);


ErryK you and I have participated in similar discussions before, I would have hoped you remember those preivous discussions and know that I am hardly advocating female gear become hoochie gear.

Humorous reply aside (along with pictures for the heck of it), what I, and I suspect a lot of other female players characters, would like to see is armor that is designed for the feminine shape without simply being billowy, translucent and bikini like. That's not to say that revealing armor is unwelcome, it's very welcome, but given how little actual gear there is in the game that is even remotely as revealing as the Shisui set or the Colosseum set, you can hardly make the claim that there is already a lot of stereotypical revealing bikini armor sets in the game, nor that there is any kind of threat that there will be any time soon.

Not to be that guy, but being that guy. The sheer number of half-naked catboys and male roe running around tells me that it swings both ways on people wanting revealing gear. Maybe not in the examples in this thread, but there are plenty of examples around.

Aesthetically speaking, I honestly don't see how people can complain about bikini clad Miqo'te females when there are near naked Roes and Lala's roaming the cities of Eorzea; all day, every day. And especially because (if I remember correctly) nearly naked Roes were once used as a form of protest against a group on a JP server - flooding that group's home with Roegadyn males wearing only small clothes and using skintones that match the small clothes precisely. Quite effective they were too, or so I remember.

[ErryK]

Erryk You should read the post you references and the context it is in. It's clearly a fun reply and not entirely serious.

ErryK you and I have participated in similar discussions before, I would have hoped you remember those preivous discussions and know that I am hardly advocating female gear become hoochie gear.

Fair enough, but with the amount of near-naked catgirls and dragongirls I've seen on my server (and a few others), it appeared legitimate.

But regarding your main point, the biggest issue with Square Enix is it's that they have to walk around eggshells when it comes to sex-specific differences between gear. Either they don't do it (Hellfire Fending and Striking sets) or they do it (WHM LV70 set, Dragoon Lv50 AF set), this is where the issue lies. If separate, one side might complain that "Why do I have to deal with this" or "Why does this look weird on this sex but not this one?", it's a huge issue that would be solved if they just made a "feminine" set and "masculine set" that dynamically changed depending on race and sex.

flooding that group's home with Roegadyn males wearing only small clothes and using skintones that match the small clothes precisely. Quite effective they were too, or so I remember.

Regarding that situation, it was to protest something and was done so on purpose, so that to me is beside the point of 'better looking raid/tome' gear being 'hoochie gear' as you put it.

Not to be that guy, but being that guy. The sheer number of half-naked catboys and male roe running around tells me that it swings both ways on people wanting revealing gear. Maybe not in the examples in this thread, but there are plenty of examples around.

I myself sometimes indulge in risque glamours, but the difference being, I don't go around asking for more of that kind of gear and use what's available in the game as is.

[Kosmos992k]

Fair enough, but with the amount of near-naked catgirls and dragongirls I've seen on my server (and a few others), it appeared legitimate.



Regarding that situation, it was to protest something and was done so on purpose, so that to me is beside the point of 'better looking raid/tome' gear being 'hoochie gear' as you put it.

You're correct, the only reason I mentioned it is because it's probably the most famous example of how players can manipulate characters to appear close to nude. But, clearly it's not typical.

I myself sometimes indulge in risque glamours, but the difference being, I don't go around asking for more of that kind of gear and use what's available in the game as is.

Personally I'm OK with a little bit more risque gear for both genders, however I see that as something that needs to be kept under control since we don't want this game becoming some kind of "Second Life" in Eorzea. Though, I would say that well designed and well tailored gear with a sense of style that works with the shapes of each gender would be very welcome.

It's not an either or kind of thing. There is a vast range of options between fully encased in Metal 'tin can' armor and on the other extreme bikini armor consisting of strategically placed scraps of material. I'd like for SE to explore that range, and create gear that people want to wear. Lately it seems that they are instead sticking to heavier armor (whether metal or cloth) and creating gear with drab colors that people actively want to glamor out of sight.

[Syfurion]

I myself sometimes indulge in risque glamours, but the difference being, I don't go around asking for more of that kind of gear and use what's available in the game as is.

As do I occasionally, and nor am I particularly asking for more of it either. But I'm also not opposed to it being added, since it is clearly a desired commodity. Personally I would like more 'mid-tier' armour sets in between, like the below quote.

It's not an either or kind of thing. There is a vast range of options between fully encased in Metal 'tin can' armor and on the other extreme bikini armor consisting of strategically placed scraps of material.

One of my absolute favorite sets in the game is the Orthodox/Dravinian fending set, the one that we got the dyeable version of at 64. Functional, yet stylish.

I want stuff like this.

[Ayer2015]

I just wish they would use different silhouettes for some gear. While the detailing varies, everything generally looks the same these days.
That said, I like the job specific gear. Verity is OK.... The rest I do not like so far in SB.

[YuzukiHibiya]

No more healer robes and coats! SE please give the healers some armor like some heavy armor PLEASE!