Is there any reason to play BLM over RDM now days?

[Dualgunner]

Nowhere did I say BLM should have rez. At all. FFS, I didn't even have an argument. I only took issue with you denying that Verraise is better than the healers. Lightspeed is the only comparable method to come close to RDM in that sense.

If I may,

it's just that rez safety buffer has the other casters feeling shafted.

This may be the quote at the source of the confusion.

[PrismaticDaybreak]

I think you also should have said caster as opposed to casters since, if SMN didn't have its plethora of problems atm, they'd also have a safety buffer, albeit at a lower rate, but still if 3 people in your party die in under a minute not even RDM is going to save you. I do appreciate you not jumping on the "RDM is OP bandwagon" though.

[ADVSS]

I think you also should have said caster as opposed to casters since, if SMN didn't have its plethora of problems atm, they'd also have a the safety buffer, albeit at a lower rate, but still if 3 people in your party die in under a minute not even RDM is going to save you. I do appreciate you not jumping on the "RDM is OP bandwagon" though.

That Susanoo ex run where the healers flat out refused to rez because me and someone else were RDM.
Failed to enrage at 3%

[Dualgunner]

That Susanoo ex run where the healers flat out refused to rez because me and someone else were RDM.
Failed to enrage at 3%

I got one better. Had a Susano EX run where healers wanted me to both do all the rez work AND mana shift THEM.

[PrismaticDaybreak]

That Susanoo ex run where the healers flat out refused to rez because me and someone else were RDM.
Failed to enrage at 3%

I'm sure that sick healer DPS was worth the half second they could've instant raised someone >.<

[Shiroe]

rdm rez is op and can help in many situations (1 healet down other healer focused on tank busters or without swiftcast up, ... or 2 dps down by acc, getting them up asap to ensure no enrage is prio etc.)

embolden might only be .75-.5% dps increase, but that + its saftey net rez + constant dps (blm are not that constant), still makes it hard for blm & smn to get in pfs or statics...

[PrismaticDaybreak]

Those are two very niche situations, and the first one SMN can do. Dude it's not hard for BLM to get into Statics or PF, stop making crap up.

[Subucnimorning]

rdm rez is op and can help in many situations (1 healet down other healer focused on tank busters or without swiftcast up, ... or 2 dps down by acc, getting them up asap to ensure no enrage is prio etc.)

embolden might only be .75-.5% dps increase, but that + its saftey net rez + constant dps (blm are not that constant), still makes it hard for blm & smn to get in pfs or statics...

No static/PF is going to say no to a BLM based on that though, if they are good they will always be welcome. I have never seen a PF DPS spot that is reserved only for RDM and I have done a lot of PF since SB launch with the EX Primals and O1S/O2S runs

[Dualgunner]

rdm rez is op and can help in many situations (1 healet down other healer focused on tank busters or without swiftcast up, ... or 2 dps down by acc, getting them up asap to ensure no enrage is prio etc.)

Okay let's assume we're in Savage. The group is running perfectly otherwise but the samurai and ninja both bite the dust 50% through. RDM picks them both up, and now has spent 50% of its mana pool--its damage is neutered, and so is the damage of the samurai and the ninja. Assuming the fourth dps is a bard, the RDM's damage can be recovered, but this group will need to perform very, VERY well to meet enrage regardless of the two rezzes since now 3/4 of its dps are running on near empty.

In the above situation anyway, it's still advantageous for the healers to each swiftrez one dps rather than having the RDM stop dps.

[Kabooa]

Okay let's assume we're in Savage. The group is running perfectly otherwise but the samurai and ninja both bite the dust 50% through. RDM picks them both up, and now has spent 50% of its mana pool--its damage is neutered, and so is the damage of the samurai and the ninja. Assuming the fourth dps is a bard, the RDM's damage can be recovered, but this group will need to perform very, VERY well to meet enrage regardless of the two rezzes since now 3/4 of its dps are running on near empty.

In the above situation anyway, it's still advantageous for the healers to each swiftrez one dps rather than having the RDM stop dps.

Let's add more assumptions.

Swift cast is down.

Now what?