Healer & Tank DPS (WoW vs FFXIV)

[Shurrikhan]

Why the emphasis? People looooooove to show off their numerical epeen on fflogs. If anyone says there's another reason they're probably lying to you and themselves.

Most of the decently dps-contributing healers and tanks I know either don't know what FFlogs is or aren't on the site.

They just notice this weird thing where, when they actually contribute, runs go faster. Shocker.

This is only because MP conservation is not a thing for healers. If healer MP regen was so low that they eventually hit a point where they go OOM regardless of what you do, the focus changes to smart use of MP and the tanks/DPS not taking more damage than needed.

But then you have to ask yourself—is standing idle fun? Even if thoughtfully done? We have the multiple ranks of MP- vs. time-efficiency, identically to WoW (save that we add potency rather than speed). Do we really want to shift emphasis from well-timed burst to using as few burst skills as possible, and standing around to regen mana? (Not that that's really a thing in WoW either at that point.)

If only more people thought that way. But sadly it appears that will never be the case. It's general "DPS or be ridiculed, insulted, and harassed."

Only by the same degree by which DPS who don't dodge or self-buff and tanks who don't use CDs or insist on having 5x the 2nd enmity's threat are ridiculed. Why would it be any different? They're wasting their own and/or others' potential contribution.

So this is just kinda like, passing the DPS buck then; as it were? I mean, either way the extra damage is coming from somewhere, whether it's you playing offensively or a healer playing offensively.

Fair enough, although actual efficiency will usually pass the torch back and forth between the healer's offensive mode (still maintaining efficient heals like oGCD usage on CD unless needing to be saved and HoTs) and the tank's whole-hog mode. That's part of what makes having a tank and healer who each know what they're doing, on each side, so fun.

Letting others die because I'm going Holy Happy is just silly to me.

You make it sound like these are divergent strategies. They're not. You apply your Regen and DoT if efficient, and then you continue to DPS until you need to heal again (or rather, until healing allows you more DPS). The proportion is irrelevant in itself. You just do what's efficient.