I really dislike the concept of PLing in this game.

[Betelgeuzah]

I don't like the fact that when you pick up a full party more often than not there are people with level 50 classes in them (naturally) and then it simply becomes a matter of scratching your back if you scratch mine, instead of volunteering to help due to your incredible altruism or whatever. And when it ends, the sheer EXP/hr ratio really gives a different perspective to when you end up doing something else to level up. When you can level like that, it's like tasting the forbidden fruit. Every other method becomes inferior. If Yoshi's plan is to offer many ways to level up- and then this one way is so grossly superior to everything else- then that's pretty shitty if you ask me.

If this goes on, finding likeminded people to group with without PL becomes increasingly difficult and annoying. If this was about helping friends, then I guess the whole server will be your 'friend'. Somebody remind me why we have levels in this game in the first place?

Whatever other MMO's do to deal with the concept of PL is hardly relevant here, IMO. At least there you would have to plan a bit ahead because you can't just press a button and enable the PL mode and press it again to enable the low level mode. Further traditional grouping is preferred from what I've seen so the opportunities to utilize PL is quite high, and the game encourages leveling multiple classes so of course many people have access to multiple classes.

I'm sure it is great to be able to level all classes to 50 in no time but you'll quickly run out of stuff to do and I don't want that to happen. But I will also play the game by its rules regardless of whether the rules are crap or not. Am I going to disband when someone pulls out his lvl50 CNJ and I'm already at the camp? It is incredibly hard not to bite on that fruit although you know the consequences. Why does the game force me to make that choice?

In a nutshell I don't think you can have exactly the same rules in this game as in any other game. Some aspects yes, some others not really (like the way quest rewards work). Also before someone gets all upset I'm not against leveling fairly fast and I doubt that will change no matter how much I cry about it. I simply do not like one of the current methods of leveling.

Lastly, you could say that I simply need to ignore the society I belong to (a society that largely encourages PLing- if not yet, in the future) and do whatever I want. But I can not do that, not in real life and not in-game. Society shapes us regardless of whether we realize it or not, and society can dictate what is an accomplishment and what is not. Breaking that bond is not something most of us can do. We do not exist in a bubble.

[irongripz]

agree with the troll for once. pl is broke and to easy.

[Lienn]

I agree. In the end it was a pretty simple thing to do...just like all other MMOs...the highest one to deal damage to mob dictates the XP...easy enough.

But IMO Yoshida has no idea about what he's doing...the difference between common ppl and great minds is the capacity of mentalize the change, creating a scenario in his own mind and seeing the pros and cons of it...and IMO he's just a common person, unable to do this. We can see this here...being unable to mentalize, all left is the trial and error...which is what we are experiencing ingame right now...they add something and watch to see what happens.

I'll tell you a thing...when they posted the official announcement of claim changes i warned them about PL exploit...in the very same day...and still they prefered paying to see what would happen.

And now i do think "something" will happen a bit after 2.0 that will "accidentaly" cause a character data wipe...still reflecting 1.19 mess. 1.19 damaged the game as a whole in a irreversible way in several aspects...and many of them, like 30% of the population getting all battle classes to 50 in one week (PL week before 1.19a) and now pretty much the rest still doing the same due PL flaws, can only be "fixed" with a character wipe.

[irongripz]

I agree. In the end it was a pretty simple thing to do...just like all other MMOs...the highest one to deal damage to mob dictates the XP...easy enough.

But IMO Yoshida has no idea about what he's doing...the difference between common ppl and great minds is the capacity of mentalize the change, creating a scenario in his own mind and seeing the pros and cons of it...and IMO he's just a common person, unable to do this. We can see this here...being unable to mentalize, all left is the trial and error...which is what we are experiencing ingame right now...they add something and watch to see what happens.

I'll tell you a thing...when they posted the official announcement of claim changes i warned them about PL exploit...in the very same day...and still they prefered paying to see what would happen.

And now i do think "something" will happen a bit after 2.0 that will "accidentaly" cause a character data wipe...still reflecting 1.19 mess. 1.19 damaged the game as a whole in a irreversible way in several aspects...and many of them, like 30% of the population getting all battle classes to 50 in one week (PL week before 1.19a) and now pretty much the rest still doing the same due PL flaws, can only be "fixed" with a character wipe.

personaly wouldn't mind a wipe. to many people getting a char head start durring this rebuilding/ beta stage. but w/e it will only be a small % of the real population to come after 2.0

[Betelgeuzah]

the highest one to deal damage to mob dictates the XP...easy enough.

Please stop the madness already....and make the exp system function like this.
People can still PL their friends by healing and buffing (and with level sync, help with the killing as well). Just let the actual, you know, killing the monster part not be made into a complete joke.

[Geesus]

personaly wouldn't mind a wipe. to many people getting a char head start durring this rebuilding/ beta stage. but w/e it will only be a small % of the real population to come after 2.0

Personally, I would. I busted my butt getting my ONE character to 50. I have PL'd Gla to 36 ONLY because I dislike the job and was told I needed Sentinel for 45+ Ifrit fight. Otherwise, as much as I have been asked to be PL'd, I have declined because I want to know how to play my job and the story(s) that go with it.

[Zenaku]

I agree i made fight about this and they lower it down but people are still doing it. Yoshi-p thought it be a system where friends who want to help out would. But i guess he forgot when you give people something they would make it main stream there so many party i join and 80% of the time there someone saying i have a powerlevel or i powerlevel if you powerlevel me back -.-

[Geesus]

Maybe that's why I really only group up with my LS mates. We have 30+ that actually PLAY in game; the others are well...idk...somewhere or gone (LS admin fix please). But, we have enough new/returning players that, there's something for everyone to level or group up for. Then, there's crafting lol. :P

[Zenaku]

Maybe that's why I really only group up with my LS mates. We have 30+ that actually PLAY in game; the others are well...idk...somewhere or gone (LS admin fix please). But, we have enough new/returning players that, there's something for everyone to level or group up for. Then, there's crafting lol. :P

ya but some of us like to party with new people it pretty dumb that people A: Don't know how to cure B: can't tank and C: Can't do anything in a party. This happen a lot at med level due to the fact everyone A: Solo or B: Powerlevel. I party with linkshell members too but it gone to the point that most of us don't have class around each other level anymore.

crafting that pretty much most of us doing now can't stand party anymore when random people they don't know how to play there class or only want to party with powerlevel. I understand a powerlevel that heal but kill the mobs for you? no thanks.

[Chronic]

Couldn't agree more. PL is too easy and a weak way to level up. PL'd noob no thanks