Why is StormBlood full of dps that never aoe?

[HyoMinPark]

Just take the trash monsters out of the instances if they don't require much different tactics and allow way too big pulls.

But why, though. Dungeons would be even more boring if you had 3 striking dummy-esque bosses and only 3 bosses to kill. At least with large pulls, things can sometimes get exciting if you manage to pump out a ton of AOE damage and just watch things melt. Take the large pull after the second boss in Sirensong. I'm leveling up WHM, tank pulls everything from dogs to the Gravekeeper. I've got Largesse + Regen on them, Aero III, Assize for burst heal and damage, Thin Air + Presence of Mind + free Holy spam for 12 seconds. Couple that with my last run where I had a BRD and a SAM both helping AOE the pack down, and they were dead before I had to even Bene the tank. There is a certain satisfaction in watching large pulls just melt like butter.

AOEing isn't hard. People that refuse to do it just don't understand the math behind how, after a certain point, AOE potency > single-target potency. Even with nerfed AOE, there isn't a reason to not use your AOE skills (except perhaps for a DRK's Dark Passenger--MP cost isn't worth the measily potency or effects unless you have a MASSIVE pull).

[Kallera]

There's nothing interesting about AOEing the mobs as it is the same tactic over and over on each pack of mobs. Those tactics do not change with the pack outside of the occasional group of aoes.

There is not crowd control, there are no "hornet" or "bomb" type enemies in SB, iirc.

[Kyrph]

When I have the right group for it I love getting big pulls as a WAR and just Decimate and overpower spam and watch everything die, even if my dps don't use their AOEs but they usually do.

[Draxxion]

As a RDM I will AOE at 3+, but often I find the other dps I am with will jus single target. Usually it is a melee like a DRG in those cases. Range is usually AOEing with me. Always feel with melee who single target that I am doing most of the work because not only am I hitting their target, but everything around it. I don't complain though because it is trash mobs and so long as the tank and healer are not struggling as well as we get through content it is fine. Just not sure what they don't want to AOE.

[Sandpark]

But why, though. Dungeons would be even more boring if you had 3 striking dummy-esque bosses and only 3 bosses to kill. At least with large pulls, things can sometimes get exciting if you manage to pump out a ton of AOE damage and just watch things melt. There is a certain satisfaction in watching large pulls just melt like butter.

I guess I would prefer fewer harder hitting monsters that give more xp, than 20 enemies who hit like fleas but combined drain resources.

Where clever pulls and positioning dictate death or victory.

Attention over spam.

It's more like God Of Warrior Of Light(hacknslash) now and I want Dark Souls. Precision + Power over speed.

[Deithwen]

I've met a Bard who tried to explain me he didn't want to aoe because bard aoes were bad ...

[Eyvhokan]

I guess I would prefer fewer harder hitting monsters that give more xp, than 20 enemies who hit like fleas but combined drain resources.

Where clever pulls and positioning dictate death or victory.

Attention over spam.

It's more like God Of Warrior Of Light(hacknslash) now and I want Dark Souls. Precision + Power over speed.

In Dark Souls, you run past all the enemies and beeline the bonfire/boss room where you can.

I don't think it's really comparable as in Dark Souls the fighting is based on hitboxes and dodging those rather than basically target+damage/hit calc.

There's no crowd control, nor possibility for multiple healers/tanks in this game, so the old type wow scholo instances can't really be done (though I think you could actually aoe those, as long as a couple of players watched the mobs that could do the nasties).

[Sandpark]

In Dark Souls, you run past all the enemies and beeline the bonfire/boss room where you can.

I don't think it's really comparable as in Dark Souls the fighting is based on hitboxes and dodging those rather than basically target+damage/hit calc.

There's no crowd control, nor possibility for multiple healers/tanks in this game, so the old type wow scholo instances can't really be done (though I think you could actually aoe those, as long as a couple of players watched the mobs that could do the nasties).

Well beeline exist here on speedruns too.

Not as precise but red ground aoe=hitbox, and you dodge those.

And that is what is missing. Crowd Control, combat is dodge or kill for the most part. No need for crowd control if we can AoE an entire zone or enemies hit like gnats. I want the thrill of if the said puller does not use forethought on pull, the outcome is not looking bright. Not bright on 24/7, let me pull ten to 30 monsters, I am going to ignore the majority of your mechanics, and we will spam rains of thunderous AoE all day long.

[Kahnom]

The fun part of AOE is you have to always position yourself tomake sure you hit all the mobs.
also NiN's aoe is unique,you have to stay right at the middle of the mobs which is sometimes suicide if mobs use multiples aoe to block your escape route.

[Lelila38]

3 or more mobs is just what you need to AoE. 2 mobs you focus one down then the other, basic rules.

It depends on what class you're on and the potencies of your skills. On Blm, I typically start Aoe at 4+, you can do 3 but it's still not really worth it and might be faster to just kill them 1 by 1.