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  1. #161
    Player
    PROBOUND's Avatar
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    Butta Stackz
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    In a party composition without a Warrior or a Ninja, it's recommended to use the 2-Sen opener.
    In a party composition with a Dragoon, it's recommended to use the 1-Sen opener.

    What about in a composition without a Warrior or Ninja, but with a Dragoon?

    I'm guessing the reason nobody talks about the 2-Sen opener when it comes to damage is because its bad? 1-Sen and 3-Sen seem to be the only openers discussed now.

    So TLDR: 2-Sen is the gimped opener that sacrifices personal damage for sub-standard party compositions?

  2. #162
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    Adriosh Wolfer
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    2 sen opener is a meme leave it in the trash where is belongs.
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  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adriosh View Post
    2 sen opener is a meme leave it in the trash where is belongs.
    So regardless of comp avoid 2 sen like the plague! Gotcha thanks lol

  4. #164
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    Yuxiichan's Avatar
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    Yuki Terumii
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    Coeurl
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    Anyone make a BiS yet?
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  5. #165
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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    2 Sen opener, what's 2 Sen opener? Lol

    Anyway, you can't ignore skillspeed on SAM, because instead of just plain GCD increase in a set timeframe, you also get potency increase, from Kenki, and that extra GCD might lead to another midare, right now I try to keep my SKS at 1449, for 2.1 GCD under shifu, I don't know the minimum, just experimenting as I go.
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  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyfrost View Post

    Anyway, you can't ignore skillspeed on SAM, because instead of just plain GCD increase in a set timeframe, you also get potency increase, from Kenki, and that extra GCD might lead to another midare, right now I try to keep my SKS at 1449, for 2.1 GCD under shifu, I don't know the minimum, just experimenting as I go.

    I'm interested in testing out the 1780 SS Threshold for 1 Sen opener supremacy! Most of the fights are target dummy which favors SS and i've seen some sets that still had 1400+ DH/DET. Could be worthwhile in the long run. Arthars put up 4.8k on his O4S clear today and he's running about 1300 SS (due to back luck on drops) and still did really well. He messed up alot and would have easily broke 5k.

  7. #167
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    ColdGuy's Avatar
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    Ayden Ka
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70


    Skill Speed is good, yes?

    Anyways, can someone with less SS test out an opener for me?

    I do a very elongated opener, goes like this:

    Hakaze -> Shifu -> Kasha -> Hakaze+Potion -> Jinpu+Kaiten -> Higanbana -> Gekko+Meikyo -> Yukikaze -> Kasha+Kaiten -> Midare -> Gekko -> Hakaze -> Yukikaze -> Hakaze -> Shifu -> Kasha+Kaiten -> Midare -> Hakaze+Guren -> Jinpu ...

    The reason i ask is because i remember Jinpu falling off before Guren a couple hundred SS ago.
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  8. #168
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    Einhorn Finkle
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    Malboro
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    Samurai Lv 70
    For those that like pictures with the skill names (like I do), here is a copy of Nominous' opener:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_E...ew?usp=sharing

    I just learn better by seeing the icons that correspond to what I'm looking at on my screen. /shrug


    Also, for those that use the ACT plugin Special Spell Timers, here are some for Samurai's cooldowns and buffs/debuffs:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_E...ew?usp=sharing

    I just learned how to use this plugin in the past few days so any suggestions or other good timers you've come up with are greatly appreciated.
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    Last edited by Convenience; 07-27-2017 at 11:20 AM. Reason: adding timers xml link

  9. #169
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    Yuki Terumii
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    Coeurl
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    Ninja Lv 64
    AYDEN !?!?!?!?!? MY OLD RAID LEADER AYDEN !?!?!?!?!? WTFFF
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  10. #170
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    Elerine Einherjar
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 20
    Quick question, I have a 340 bracelet from savage and a 320 crafted pentamelded, what do you think it's better? how can I value the extra str against the extra secondary stats?
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