A consern about space efficieny since stormblood is not getting enough space increase

[Princess_Momoka]

And then theres people holding on to every crafting mat ever. If its not an unspoiled node, toss it. If its a 30 min unspoiled node, toss it.

You are incorrect, Why should I be tossing 2k+ in materials just because the craft that minute does not use the surplus off the MB because of the uneven stacks? Are you expecting me toss out 99 Molybdenum Ingots just because I did not use them all that day for yellow scripts? We are not hording, and we are not even have 1/10 of the materials the game requires. I have assorted materials for SOME < read some, not all, materials for some high selling items used in in leves/ gc turn ins 50+ and assorted materials for 60+ to sell that is for random GC turn ins and making gathering gear. This is also no CUL keep in mind and this alone is 110 spots in my inventory + a full retainer. another retainer is in game currency that should be in a currency tab while the other 6 are for glams. Just because you do not make full use of the game does not mean others need to limit themselves. SE advertises lets you play all jobs on one character and the lack of room does not allow it. Just because you do not craft does not mean you should be speaking on the behalf that does, the people that are continuously crafting and selling.

We need a glam log
we need less mat bloat (multiple items that serve the same purpose, like my 3 sand example)
We need ALL CURRENCY to go in a currency tab
we need a bait box.

Those waters you see me have with the clone icons are all 400+ gil EACH while being a key part in threads/ inks/ stat potions/leather for gear

Why are you even here trying to suggest this is a not needed change?

[Princess_Momoka]

You know, I remembered you did not respond back when you tried to tell me yellow scripts did not take much, and I am tried of you and a few others suggesting people with inventory problems are horders. So let me break it down how bad it is, when you are just getting 8 tools like I did (and forgo all the gear and including it would just make these numbers 14.7692 times more, so whatever you see multiply it by that and you have the mats needed for all 8 sets, but what i am about to list is what I did, and that was for the 8 tools)

Molybdenum Longblade-67 scripts, what i have today.
this is
3 Molybdenum Ingot
1 Tama-hagane Ingot
1 Durium Nugget
1 Beetle Glue

you need to make 20 of these for one tool, 156 of them for all 8 ( cant do 20 x 8 due to decimals and you need round up to the next whole number because the game does not accept partial crafts) so we are using the number of 156 synths needed for the 8 tools

this means it is 468 Molybdenum Ingots (and you wonder why i been buying these things for 1-2k each x 2-4 stacks, depending how much i did in a sitting)
156 Tama-hagane Ingot
156 Durium Nugget
156 Beetle Glue

Now if you gather all this.. since some people like the idea of doing everything for "free"

1872 Molybdenum Ore
468 Cobalt Ore
624 Doman Iron Sand
624 Doman Iron Ore
156 Iron Ore (this should be removed from the synth since it is a 10 gil or whatever npc item)
624 Durium Sand
156 Silver Ore
312 Rhino Beetle Carapace
156 Pine Resin
156 Moth Scales

NOW! remember that 14x^ stated above? if you wanted to do the "cheapest" thing right now, and this is actually a lower end for how many synths you gotta do, 67 is a very high turn in, it is more typical to see 55 per synth, anyways, for a complete set of yellow script gear for all crafters you would need 27,647 or 279 SLOTS of Molybdenum Ore and you think there isn't an inventory PROBLEM??!?!?!!?!? this games REQUIRES YOU to have more room then you are given to do things. ALL the currency bloat, all the lack of glam log ON TOP OF THIS^ NONSENSE! now please stop calling us horders.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Or you can craft the crafted stuff and meld it, and not have to go through that, saving you all of the inventory space in the world. And being better geared to boot.

And you originally did not say scrip tools, you said tools.

[Princess_Momoka]

I am willing to bet it is more like the crafting history or something. I do not want to "settle" on something like that, we need a glam log, plain and simple


Have you add up all the items you need for yellow scripts? It is insane. I made like 90 Zelkova Lumber and i am sitting here, where did that all go? after just 4 tools.

I am really finding it hard being able to craft 61>70 +2 star now because of all the items, give us more space or start removing items!

No I am not. I was talking about how many materials you need to get for yellow script tools. It is not 1 lumber each, I have no idea where you are coming from to say that. I mathed out before how much twin thread you would need if you happened to just have wvr at 70 (yeah right I will stick to BSM turn ins) to get a full set for weaver you need collect 1500 twincoons, I do not know what SE was thinking. I made 90 lumbers around, ( about 45 x 2 times, I did not do it all in one sitting) for the turn ins I was doing for ARM and BSM (the 2 different resets today)to get..... tools (GSM, BSM, ALC) .. Sorry I went though 90 lumbers today doing those 3, I had waver and LTW before hand. I did not keep track what I did yesterday for LTW and WVR. I baught 2 and a half stacks of 99 of Molybdenum Ingots and im down to 37. Then I needed a midsize amount of Tama-hagane Ingots leading to need huge amounts of sand and ore. I got those by a mix of gathering and bought from the MB. The need 4 x for a mat only for that mat to go into something else that needs 4x is hell when a game suffers from lack of space as is. I do not even understand why it requires iron ore when I can just by that for 14 gil each from a NPC, it should be removed from the synth, and other items like it, like Koppranickel Nugget. Adding in a mat that costs 14 gil from a npc is not a gil sink, is not challenging, it is just plain annoying with a game with inventory problems.

So, no , you are wrong, even bold it this time so you do not miss it.
care to answer this now?

Why are you even here trying to suggest this is a not needed change?

Does not matter what you can do, the fact is the game is programed like that, and the game requires you to have more room then what you are given.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It doesn't look like you crafted anything, unless its an alt. I lose track of who I'm talking to on these forums. So many alts. But no, in your ORIGINAL post mentioning crafting for tools, you did not specifically mention crafting items for scrips until after I posted, and I dont really go back and read edits when pages fly by.

You are holding on to items because they cost you money to buy them, instead of gathering them at your leisure. You turned crafting into a job, and thats on you.

[Princess_Momoka]

It doesn't look like you crafted anything, unless its an alt. I lose track of who I'm talking to on these forums. So many alts. But no, in yourORIGINAL post mentioning crafting for tools, you did not specifically mention crafting items for scrips until after I posted, and I dont really go back and read edits when pages fly by.

You are holding on to items because they cost you money to buy them, instead of gathering them at your leisure. You turned crafting into a job, and thats on you.

I linked you the original post, I even bold it, why are you sitting here arguing to argue? I did not say what you claim, i was talking about yellow scripts, here I will bold it AGAIN! keep doing this and I will report you.

I am willing to bet it is more like the crafting history or something. I do not want to "settle" on something like that, we need a glam log, plain and simple



Have you add up all the items you need for yellow scripts? It is insane. I made like 90 Zelkova Lumber and i am sitting here, where did that all go? after just 4 tools.

I am really finding it hard being able to craft 61>70 +2 star now because of all the items, give us more space or start removing items!

Again, you edited it originally. it didn't say that before I posted my response. Also, I didnt add up all the items needed, because I will happily meld my crafted tools since they will end up better afterwards. You should know this as a serious crafter.



Not sure what you are reporting me for? Is it not agreeing? or is it asking if you are an alt? I wonder if telling someone you reported them is against ToS.

Also do not blame edits:
Last edited by Princess_Momoka; 07-19-2017 at 08:16 AM.
you posted: 07-19-2017 08:26 AM

Also that edit was not for editing in saying the bold.

You still have not answered my question, why are you fighting us and saying the game does not need this needed change? It does not matter who I am, I clearly know what I am talking about, and that is all that should matter.

I can say the same thing to you, you do not craft a lot, or glam a lot, that is on you, some people like to glam a lot, and like to craft a lot, and we do not have enough room to function. it is not on us that the game requires too much inventory room to function because it lacks storage options and efficient item management (the retainer system is overall horrible)

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Again, you edited it originally. it didn't say that before I posted my response. Also, I didnt add up all the items needed, because I will happily meld my crafted tools since they will end up better afterwards. You should know this as a serious crafter.

I linked you the original post, I even bold it, why are you sitting here arguing to argue? I did not say what you claim, i was talking about yellow scripts, here U will bold it AGAIN! keep doing this and I will report you.



You still have not answered my question, why are you fighting us and saying the game does not need this needed change? It does not matter who I am, I clearly know what I am talking about, and that is all that should matter.

I can say the same thing to you, you do not craft a lot, or glam a lot, that is on you, some people like to glam a lot, and like to craft a lot, and we do not have enough room to function. it is not on us that the game requires too much inventory room to function because it lacks storage options and efficient item management (the retainer system is overall horrible)

Not sure what you are reporting me for? Is it not agreeing? or is it asking if you are an alt? I wonder if telling someone you reported them is against ToS. You don't know me very well, as is obvious. I pick my glamours very carefully. I don't like having to change them, because then something doesn't match. Not hoarding every piece of gear does not mean not using the glamour system extensively. I also post on my main character, which has gatherers and crafters leveled. You do not, hiding or something? We all know who you are.

I did answer your question, see above. Any serious crafter uses melded gear.

[Berethos]

the game requires you to have more room then what you are given.

Only if you make the personal choice to gather all of the materials to craft every single item you need for the yellow scrip gear in one go before ever turning an item in.

The game isn't requiring you to hold on to that much, you are making the choice to play that way...and then demanding the devs change things to suit your whim.

Talk about entitled.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Only if you make the personal choice to gather all of the materials to craft every single item you need for the yellow scrip gear in one go before ever turning an item in.

The game isn't requiring you to hold on to that much, you are making the choice to play that way...and then demanding the devs change things to suit your whim.

Talk about entitled.

Careful, she might report you!

She doesn't understand that people can have a different opinion than her. The game has tons of storage, its how you choose to utilize it.

[Naunet]

It simply doesn't have "tons" of storage if you're actually leveling all the jobs, saving glamour gear for them, and crafting intensely, and this entire thread has presented a great deal of evidence to support that.

@Momoka: It's probably best to just ignore Valkyrie from here on out.