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  1. #891
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcanoJones View Post
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    First of all, I appreciate your sympathy, thank you for it.

    But allow me to correct you in terms of the comparable pricing by referring to the EU product page

    If you scroll down to the sub fees you'll find the prices in euro and pounds, look at the pound pricing, it's £9.


    The Brazilian sub was 33 BRL:


    Now the price for the Brazilian sub is 15 USD converted to BRL on the current exchange, so the prices were raised higher than some of the player base is paying (note that the UK is way better off than Brazil, but that's irrelevant).

    Cheers, mate.
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    Valve was the 3rd party managing the regional pricing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsuo666 View Post
    Snip everything that you said on this entire thread.
    I desire of the bottom of my heart that one day you will not be able to pay a single game because of your economy.
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  4. #894
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcanoJones View Post
    If that is so. I am not completely familiar with the issue. I thought the raise was for everyone. If thats the case just drop Steam and subscribe through SE.
    Subbing straight through SE is worse in brazil since you have to pay both a tax on the purchase and on the conversion to usd, unless mogstation is 10-15% cheaper to offset the taxes, not to mention the need of a international credit card that not everybody qualifies to have in brazil
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    Last edited by Vizu00; 07-25-2017 at 03:44 AM.

  5. #895
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    Quote Originally Posted by eschaton View Post
    Business or not people are not numbers on your screen and they never will be.
    Yes they are. And that's all they'll ever be. SE is not doing charity here.

    And whatever the case, appealing to emotion is an argument for nothing.



    And before people start throwing rocks at me, I'm not defending SE.
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  6. #896
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    No one is throwing rocks or asking for charity. People made very reasonable points so far, lets not dismiss the whole thing because some players are more upset.
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    One thing. SE did not break it's ToS as the price didn't change. Please stop spreading this misinformation. All that changed was bringing the steam version up to the price everyone else is paying. Basically, SE is now using the normal conversion rate as opposed to regional pricing.

    That said, the problem most here have is the way SE did this. No prior warning at all and making this change right after releasing Stormblood. Also SE waited just long enough after release that they can't get a refund on the expansion. I know if this had happened to me I would be furious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katsuragi_ View Post
    Yes they are. And that's all they'll ever be. SE is not doing charity here.

    And whatever the case, appealing to emotion is an argument for nothing.



    And before people start throwing rocks at me, I'm not defending SE.
    Bravo. The forums that think the company and devs are their friends are misinformed. Companies react to bad PR. They don't react to you met and hugged the guys at fanfest.

    The supposed game outlets can ignore a lot. But if the games fan score drops through the floor everywhere, they probably have to comment. Or risk looking like they are in collusion. Which actually has been an issue with game reviewers in the past. MMO's are an ongoing customer service interaction. You provide monthly fees and if you feel the service is poor rate it. The exit question when you finish up your sub is a joke.
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  9. #899
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katsuragi_ View Post
    Yes they are. And that's all they'll ever be. SE is not doing charity here.

    And whatever the case, appealing to emotion is an argument for nothing.



    And before people start throwing rocks at me, I'm not defending SE.
    Ok, I'll bite.

    If square profits per each subscription sold is => 0 how are they running a charity?

    You must remember that they werent opperating at loss neither with brazil 10 usd sub, uk 11 usd sub and probably with rus 5 usd sud
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  10. #900
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katsuragi_ View Post
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    Yes, it's not a charity, that's why we pay for the service (a subscription fee some might say) and as such we are what people call "paying customers".

    Hell, even to simply be on these forums you have to have paid at least for the base game, so I don't really get your point in saying that this is not a charity.
    It has never been, it has always been customers complaining about questionable actions from a company they pay to provide them a service.

    No offense was intended in this post.

    me, please it's not costumers, it's customers
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    Last edited by IzumiOgata; 07-25-2017 at 04:14 AM. Reason: words are hard

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