Are BRD/MCH A Sub DPS Class (Support DPS) or Are They Just DPS Now?

[MomoOG]

I hope the current raid mentality doesn't change. I quite like my raid spot. Besides if you consider rDPS increases BRD are equally as useful as a Ninja and the both of them do for a team than what a samurai (for example) can do
But you seem to be saying that DPS should be competing with other DPS? I mean we still have the ever useful disable. Even if trick attack is technically far stronger than hypercharge you can still stack them. And while refresh isn't as king as it used to be it's still sort of good.

If we were competing sorely as a DPS of course MCH would be in a foul place. But we'll be desirable because our tools are useful, which is why we have our own category... Right?



Well I mean it's not that dead. It's just returned to being one of the lowest played jobs. The changes missed the mark and players aren't going to play something that has a terrible "flavor and fun : dps ratio". While BRDs learned to play the flute MCH slap their lunchbox

I'm not saying that they should be. I'm simply saying that is the current reality. The only reason to take a BRD/MCH over another dps class is because the sum of their personal dps + indirect support dps abilities is superior to another dps classes sum of personal dps + indirection support dps abilities. Now we can argue that we always want to have both ranged and melee dps (I'm not sure if that is true tho) and in that case at the least BRD/MCH compete with all the other current ranged dps classes for a spot. I just don't see why people still think BRD/MCH is its own category that for balance discussion can only be compared to each other.

Like if a BRD is brought to a raid right now it is because the sum of its damage output (personal and from support abilities) makes it desirable and not because it is a "required" class.