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  1. #21
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    Tufelhunden's Avatar
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    Teufel Hunden
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Eliroth-Kaminari View Post
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    Thanks for testing that
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  2. #22
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    Selena Zensh
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    Tenacity afaik affects self heals not drains.

    Ergo its pretty useless on DRK for that purpose but okay on PLD/WAR if that's your thing.
    Tenacity affects outgoing heals, so that section of the stat is only useful for Paladins thanks to Clemency.
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    Rhinos Sandrock
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Yes drains don't benefit tenacity's healing bonus, but It's worth noting that the damage mitigation from tenacity means the effective hp recovered from drains increases, on top of the damage bonus. In that sense, tenacity is the strongest sub stat if you want drain potency.
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  4. #24
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    I feel like this was a reaction to the massive amount of self heals that tanks had, more specifically war had, in 3.0 which in turn forced healers to dps. In 4.0 they made tanks more reliant on healers and healers more focused in healing. However that being said since self heals are directly tied to damage, war players have been stacking direct hit on the left side as more outgoing damage and higher critical damage produce higher self healing. I'm sure this will produce some other type of issue farther down the line. I'm already doing IB direct crits for over 10k in my current i314 gear.
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  5. #25
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    Viola Cruxis
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Falar View Post
    Again, Tenacity only affects incoming healing from outside sources.
    That guy voice: except for paladin
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  6. #26
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    Jaghatai Dotharl
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinos View Post
    Yes drains don't benefit tenacity's healing bonus, but It's worth noting that the damage mitigation from tenacity means the effective hp recovered from drains increases, on top of the damage bonus. In that sense, tenacity is the strongest sub stat if you want drain potency.
    Since tenacity improves damages, drain are affected. But well, they aren't high to begin with, and are event slightly nerfed from 100% to, as tested, 88%.
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  7. #27
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    Pixiline Paradigm
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    Tenacity affects outgoing heals, so that section of the stat is only useful for Paladins thanks to Clemency.
    I believe Equilibrium benefits as well.
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  8. #28
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    Rhinos Sandrock
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MauvaisOeil View Post
    Since tenacity improves damages, drain are affected. But well, they aren't high to begin with, and are event slightly nerfed from 100% to, as tested, 88%.
    I'm aware, but my point stands, for what it's worth.
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