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  1. #51
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    LathusWHM's Avatar
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    M'iko Peeko
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Princess_Momoka View Post


    So why take out an ability from .. 34 I think it was? only to replace it with something with the same use at level 66 with very restrictive casting ability? couldn't they just buff stoneskin to be 15% and not bother making this ability at all? What did it even do in this pic? it is so useless >< Why is it dropping in the same frame it was applied? need to delete useless abilities, even if they are gained at level 66.
    What am I looking at in this picture? I don't get it? ?_?;;;
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  2. #52
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    LathusWHM's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    Divine Benision is amazing. Idk what OP is complaining about.

    I use it all the time, its one of my favorite, new healer abilities.
    I use it all the time as well, if I have lillies and nothing else to spend them on I would rather use it and not waste the lillies that could have been used.

    I generally feel that the WHM that are complaining about DB and PE are really just not well versed in being a white mage. White mage is the top healer in the game right now, SE pulled through on making us a "pure healer". It's working just fine.

    Learn to play the new mechanics instead of crying on the forums. SE already did their balance patch, they won't make major changes again. GET USED TO IT.
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    Last edited by LathusWHM; 07-24-2017 at 06:04 AM.

  3. #53
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    IveraIvalice's Avatar
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    Ivera Ivalice
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 90
    im seeing alot of healers in here say SS was useless. just because you didnt use SS enough didnt make it useless at all. that was one of my number 1 spells i used all the time in every dungeon. keeping SS on all my party members between fights was a main thing that was very useful because between fights i get my mp back very fast and during a fight if the tank struggles to pull 100% hate immediately and a dps takes a hit or 2, i dont have to heal them right away which then takes more hate from the tank.
    even if the tank was good and did pull hate immediately then it would still be insurance on the dps in case they stand in an aoe either by accident or to push that extra dps which would be fine one time with SS on.
    and if a dps did manage to take an aoe hit or something thats not really life threatening then it barely scratches their hp so i dont even have to stop dpsing just to heal 1 person.

    when the tank drops SS in the middle of a fight i dont put SS on unless theres a crazy tough hit coming.
    And the most important time is when we are doing big pulls and im setting up to spam holy and cant spare the time to heal every single person. A dps does take a hit or 2 every how and then during big pulls and SS really helped so i didnt have to stop stunning/dpsing with holy so that i can heal a party member which would then make the monsters die slower which then makes me use more mp healing and prolonging the fight.
    Anyone who didnt use SS effectively was doing it wrong.
    that doesnt mean spam SS whenever someone loses it instantly mid fight, but know when to use it and it was great.

    That being said DB is a good spell even though i cant cast it on everyone between fights and have it last until they get hit. the only problem with it is that it needs to consume only 1 lilly and thats something i will keep bringing up on these forums until they fix it because that is absolutely stupid that it takes all lillies for no extra benefit.

    Currently WHMs biggest issue is plenary indulgence being almost completely useless in everything but savage
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    Last edited by IveraIvalice; 07-24-2017 at 06:06 AM.

  4. #54
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    Mariel Crystallie
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    Blue Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Princess_Momoka View Post
    The Feathercut damage that shown on your Screenshot was hit for 10k-12k with full set Bardam gear (lv65 equip) on tank with grit/shield oath (and you should know about this since you're the dark knight in this SS) , and that's Divine Benison actually cut half of it... how come u call it useless?... and should I remind you it's base on target HP ( 15% from maximum HP ) and Tank on current gear 320ish already have 50k+ hp , that's like instant 7.5k shield! no cast and instant! ( and Lily was pretty easy to get now 100% chance with cure 1 ) .

    Please learn how to use the skill properly before rant about it (or should I say learn how maximize your skills) , it maybe useless for you because you only do a normal dungeons? (tho normal dungeon boss still have buster , but seems you only play as a "FULL HEALING" white mage so you didn't even bother to do anything except cure cure cure cure cure cure ? lol ) but for end game content like savage / primal EX it's very useful . once again , Learn how to use the skill before make a statement like this .
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    Mariel Crystallie & Amariel Crystallie & Mariel Celestine

  5. #55
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    Shiru Elysia
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    It's not useless.

    I use it a lot => during dungeons,primals and now savage.
    It's a stronger stoneskin for the cost of one cure/cure ii, it's instant, really fast to execute.
    Special note : this is like a tank buster ready skill, i love it.

    Anyways.

    It deserves its place in white mage's toolkit.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Princess_Momoka View Post
    swiftcast. Also it used to be 15%, they nerfed it.
    With Divine Benision now, no need to burn your swifcast for it, and it's only a 30s recast CD.

    So...
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  7. #57
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    Raiya Li
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    Ragnarok
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I would have rather they just left Stoneskin in the game even for the time being. WHM at 70 has far fewer abilities than it had at 60 Partially because they removed some stuff but also because lower tier spells got rolled into higher ones as well. Actually wish they'd given WHM some proper water spells even as while BLM has Thunder/Fire/Ice, WHM should in theory have Water/Stone/Wind but only has the later 2. Never understood why they didnt give a proper water spell and not that Knockback that doesnt even do damage anymore.
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  8. #58
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I would take Divine Benison over the old 2.5s 10% HP Stoneskin any day. I'd even take it over the 3s 18% HP Stoneskin as well. The fact it's an oGCD ability means you'll use Benison much more frequently than Stoneskin because Stoneskin was a terribly inefficient GCD compared to other options in the WHM kit. It's easy to build around the Lily requirement once you understand what's going on.

    Also consuming multiple lilies isn't "useless" as it does reduce the recast of the skill, but a short recast reduction on an already short skill is pretty negligible too.
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  9. #59
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Ability is not useless, it is extremely strong and potent when used properly. The only problem I have with it is that it requires lillies and consumes all your lillies.

    I am posting feedback so that the developers don't think players think this ability is bad, it's not. It's extremely useful and important in savage raids.
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  10. #60
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    Ivera Ivalice
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Also consuming multiple lilies isn't "useless" as it does reduce the recast of the skill, but a short recast reduction on an already short skill is pretty negligible too.
    are you sure about that? because the action description says nothing about that at all

    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    Can confirm that extra lilies does reduce the cooldown. 1 to 2 lilies are 28 seconds, 3 is 24 seconds.
    yeah your both absolutely right, i didnt realize it was in the traits of the lillies rather then the spell itself.
    though i cant check right now, i could have sworn the description for assize mentioned the stacks and their effects on the spell itself.
    i also didnt know lillies affected tetragrammaton too so thats good to know
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    Last edited by IveraIvalice; 07-24-2017 at 07:33 AM.

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