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  1. #21
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    I only take BLM for fights where you can sit on your ass or dungeons for AoE. Otherwise you take RDM. SMN is garbage right now IMO. RDM brings too much to not be considered. Unfortunately because of this everyone and their brother is running one.
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  2. #22
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    Vexander's Avatar
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    Sharlyan
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    Character
    Rin Black
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Black mages don't need to be that brain dead.

    Magical Embolden should belong to the Summoner (Wide Reaching Party Buffs are generally the realm of Summons, with White/Black mages providing specific support in games without defaulted All options)
    SMN needs a WHOLE LOT MORE than magical Embolden to fix it though. I'm fine with whoever getting it really, but let's be honest, Summoners need a thorough re-designing pretty much.
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  3. #23
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    Schondetta's Avatar
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    Character
    Veno Sera
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 50
    play whatever class you enjoy. nothing else matters. If everyone played jobs only because they were the best the game would fail, not look like it does now, and you would never see a Dragoon. Also RDM is still a new class im sure the frequency will die down over time.

    There is also a lot of ex Summoners (myself included) hoping on the RDM train because SMN is a messy bag of trash this expansion . So were essentially down one caster class until SE gets on it

    Wish players would stop worrying about whats best and whats not. its not useful.
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  4. #24
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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Kacho Nacho
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Tiny exaggeration? Perhaps. But the main thrust of that comment is it brings far more dps and utility than either of it's competitors at no cost to itself.
    But isn't that fencing yourself into a certain playstyle?
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  5. #25
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    kyrios91's Avatar
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    Character
    Dux Dragunity
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Not even a BLM player but the Job designs in Stormblood are not balanced at all. You got these high skill ceiling Jobs that deals average DPS (DRG, BLM, SMN) with really punishing and tight mechanics / rotation while other Jobs are easy / can afford to mess up a bit / flexible rotations but still deal good DPS. It really contradicts their design philosophy and goal to "lessen the gap between casuals and expert players" because right now if you don't master the Job you're playing there's no way you can deal acceptable amount of DPS.
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  6. #26
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    Thela's Avatar
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    Character
    Thela Ivora
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by kyrios91 View Post
    Not even a BLM player but the Job designs in Stormblood are not balanced at all. You got these high skill ceiling Jobs that deals average DPS (DRG, BLM, SMN) with really punishing and tight mechanics / rotation while other Jobs are easy / can afford to mess up a bit / flexible rotations but still deal good DPS. It really contradicts their design philosophy and goal to "lessen the gap between casuals and expert players" because right now if you don't master the Job you're playing there's no way you can deal acceptable amount of DPS.
    Average dps? BLM is doing 2nd highest dps in the game after 4.05 topped only by SAM.
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  7. #27
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    Psycofang's Avatar
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    Character
    Void Fang
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Thela View Post
    Average dps? BLM is doing 2nd highest dps in the game after 4.05 topped only by SAM.
    Are still locking them out of pfs and calling the trash.

    I hate this games community sometimes.
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  8. #28
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    Age_of_Oblivion's Avatar
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    Character
    Aetherius Lune
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Thela View Post
    Average dps? BLM is doing 2nd highest dps in the game after 4.05 topped only by SAM.
    Yeah, on dummies. Taking a BLM into a Savage raid crushes their effective dps because there is so much movement required. Maintaining enochian isn't even the problem, it's the sheer amount of time spent moving around. Triple/Swift cast alleviate it somewhat, but it's not enough to mitigate the dps loss from movment entirely. Add into that the complexity of the rotation compared to RDM's ease of use and utility, and it's just.... why bother?
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  9. #29
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    VitalSuit's Avatar
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    Character
    Tarra Netsky
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Age_of_Oblivion View Post
    Yeah, on dummies. Taking a BLM into a Savage raid crushes their effective dps because there is so much movement required. Maintaining enochian isn't even the problem, it's the sheer amount of time spent moving around. Triple/Swift cast alleviate it somewhat, but it's not enough to mitigate the dps loss from movment entirely. Add into that the complexity of the rotation compared to RDM's ease of use and utility, and it's just.... why bother?
    Not really. If you know what you're doing you can pull 4k+ dps on O3S and O4S consistently for the entire fight.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh0m0pHBXSk

    Oh I should add that's not my video, it was posted on Reddit. If I had a static and time I would be attempting to bring my BLM to Savage.
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  10. #30
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    Lelila38's Avatar
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    Character
    Rhia Nara
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Play what you enjoy and if you want to raid find a group with the same mindset. Outside of speed kills and world first progression all classes are viable. There's even some around that cleared with a Mch and they are in a really bad spot atm.
    I'm my static's Blm and we're progressing on O3s, I do over 4k on O2s, I doubt I could do that on Rdm. It's better to bring a "not optimal" class that you can play optimally than "the optimal job cause meta says so" and be sub-par on it.
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