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    And Lupin are a beast tribe, whats your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    Honestly, I'd be down for any new race with less than human characteristics. I was hoping we'd get a fishy race for the underwater emphasis of Stormblood, but SE did a silly and decided Raen are mer-people instead of just being Doman? Boring!

    I think another animalistic race is the next step. While I'm fully supportive of a Viera inspired race, my actual dream is for bird people. Something between Gwendolyn from Odin Sphere and the Rito from Legend of Zelda. At least I have two varieties of birdy beast tribes... *sighs*

    My fantasia addiction might be resolved one day if a race could really fit what I like, but right now I'm default Hyuran and bored.
    The majority of Raen are either Doman or Hingan. Sui-no-Sato is a small community, and the only one of its kind that we know of.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    The majority of Raen are either Doman or Hingan. Sui-no-Sato is a small community, and the only one of its kind that we know of.
    My complaint is rather than leaving themselves open to the option of a mermaid/merman race down the line, they used the existing Raen race to fill the gap.

    I may have been reading deeper into it, but while Sui-no-Sato being a little villiage is one thing, the fact that the undersea Raen populous has a large and exquisite castle at Shisui of the Violet Tides, filled to the brim with guards and servants, seems indicative of a larger society than just it and Sui-no-Sato.

    It's probably more akin to Miqo'te tribe rules, but this large a split between the Raen just feels like they may as well make a third clan...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    Do they really need to explain that? I mean, nobody questions how races like Miqo'te, Lalafell or Roegadyn came about. They're just there and so do Au Ra.
    I question where they come from because I'm curious and there are others who have felt the same in the past about the other races, too. That's why we have brief descriptions of each race and their clans in character creation, because there are people who are curious about them. I just want to learn a little more about the Au'ra is all and just because you and some others aren't curious about their origins doesn't mean everybody else feels the same way, too.

    Now I'm dropping this because I said what I felt I needed to say and don't care for whatever comeback argument you or anybody else has or whatever crappy joke somebody wants to throw in for laughs.

    Sorry for the brief derailment of the topic and please continue with it on topic, thank you.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    My complaint is rather than leaving themselves open to the option of a mermaid/merman race down the line, they used the existing Raen race to fill the gap.

    I may have been reading deeper into it, but while Sui-no-Sato being a little villiage is one thing, the fact that the undersea Raen populous has a large and exquisite castle at Shisui of the Violet Tides, filled to the brim with guards and servants, seems indicative of a larger society than just it and Sui-no-Sato.

    It's probably more akin to Miqo'te tribe rules, but this large a split between the Raen just feels like they may as well make a third clan...
    Yoshida did confirm the existence of a third clan in an interview, one that predates the Raen and Xaela.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daranion View Post
    And Lupin are a beast tribe, whats your point?
    We don't know if they are a beast tribe or not. They are considered equals among the Domans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    Yoshida did confirm the existence of a third clan in an interview, one that predates the Raen and Xaela.
    Interesting, but my opinion on the Raen under the Ruby Sea being a huge missed opportunity still stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharksandrew View Post
    We don't know if they are a beast tribe or not. They are considered equals among the Domans.
    That's not really a new concept. There are mamool'ja and qiqirn living alongside men in Limsa Lominsa, and the Gridanians are close allies of the sylphs and moogles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    The majority of Raen are either Doman or Hingan. Sui-no-Sato is a small community, and the only one of its kind that we know of.
    Auri creation myth tells of a Dawn Father and a Dusk Mother from whom all Au Ra are descended. The Raen believe their veins to run thick with the blood of the former─their brilliant white scales and iron wills serving as proof of this divine lineage.
    Unlike their sister clan, the Xaela, who bloody the land with their endless tribal conflict, the Raen have embraced a life of tranquility and solitude, long abandoning the nomadic lifestyle of their ancestors to settle the deep valleys of Othard's mountainous eastern reaches. Only on rare occasions will one emerge from the valley mists to seek adventure in realms afar.
    That's from their character blurb on the New Character screen. Seems Sui-no-Sato is actually more the norm rather than an outlier. It's just in the ocean instead of in the mountains like their lore states.
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    Beast tribes seem to be classified based both on their appearance and level of sentience.

    The Matanga (The elephant-men at the Azim Steppe) for instance, are mistakenly not viewed as a beast tribe by some like the Garleans due to them having difficulty with learning and speaking the common tongues.

    The Lupin have all the markings of a typical beast tribe and as previously stated, it's not unusual for them to be integrated into societies that aren't racist towards them.
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