Can warriors have flash back?

[Janhyua]

We gave you Bloodbath, Foresight and Mercy Stroke.

Until the devs decided to tear those out with the changes to role actions.

What else would you use? Cure?

I will take thrill

[Ekimmak]

If ToB gets fixed so it doesn't have that 0.5% chance of killing you in O1s, I won't mind sharing it.

As long as we get another role action slot, because at the moment, there aren't enough role slots to go around.

[SpookyGhost]

I read somewhere on here that RI + Awareness lets you parry from all sides in 4.0. I'm going to test it later to confirm, but if you're curious yourself just pull s/t -> RI + Awareness -> turn around.

Tested it and it turns out I was right, RI + Awareness lets you parry from all sides.

[Galgarion]

You have Steel Cyclone.

It's literally made for AoE pulls since it's:

1. Radial and does not require a target
2. Has an enmity multiplier
3. Heals you by 22% of damage dealt per target.


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No. Not /endthread. 50 BG to collect trash is stupid. You're ignoring the part where I wrote that I hate doing that.

[Galgarion]

This is not! The greatest song in the w-w-w-orld, no! This is just a tribute! Couldn't remember! The greatest song in the w-w-world, oh! This is just a tribute, ohhhh!

Killer, bro. You must wear shades at night because the sun couldn't possibly set on someone as cool as you.

[SpookyGhost]

No. Not /endthread. 50 BG to collect trash is stupid. You're ignoring the part where I wrote that I hate doing that.

How many packs are you pulling? If it's just two then you don't need to OP/Flash/SC at all - just go past them and start OPing at the end of the pull. If it's more than two then pop Sprint. If you're worried about healer pulling aggro then just stop for a sec, let them come to you, and hit OP, then continue on.

Alternatively just play PLD and Flash your heart out.

e: Also not really getting why someone said positioning OP takes skill. Generally the mobs are in front of you and OP has a rather large radius despite being a conal AOE. You also have access to SC which should catch anything that OP doesn't. Also Vengeance isn't just a defensive CD, it also bounces back 50 potency every time you take a hit (and it's also buffed by zerk) - which means if you're in Defiance then all of those reflects have an enmity multiplier on them. On top of this you have Equilibrium which generates a ton of aggro, though for me it depends on the situation - sometimes I use it for the heal, sometimes for the TP (OP spam can be brutal on TP). And on top of all that Unchained now costs 0 BG so until lvl 70 you should be using it whenever it's up.

Anyway, point is, ya shouldn't have any problems holding threat on WAR. However, I do think Ultimatum is really way too niche and we could use a replacement for it.

[FearShadow]

What no, practice makes perfect. Starting from 2.0, I used to use flash until 3.3 when someone showed me how pointless it is if you just teach yourself how to aim. You can do it, I believe in you!!

[Galgarion]

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Spook, I'm not having issues with generating threat on trash. All I ever said was that having flash made it easier to round packs up; it did. Non-targeted AOE meant I could just keep running until I was ready to turn around and start using overpower. My issue with flash being gone, is that wide conal or not, stopping to overpower is still slower than what I'd gotten used to, and it can still miss. And if I just run past trash without attacking, my rando dps or healer will probably do something stupid that will necessitate me turning around to save them, when I want to keep pulling. It's just a small QOL issue, I'm bewildered that so many posters are dropping doorstopper posts over why flash is useless. It wasn't useless to me, and I miss it now that it's gone. You're not one of them, but the others positing this Alpha beast nonsense verbage mocking those of us who liked using flash, can go kick rocks. Yeesh, why do people get like this on the internet? Doesn't anyone get into fights at school anymore? My generation did, and it was very healthy for us.

[Leigaon]

I can understand the frustration with using overpower on some pulls.

There might be some examples some have listed where OP doesn't work so well. (I think someone mentioned the new area) and there are some mobs that are "glitchy" to say the least.

Overall Steel Cyclone and Overpower should be okay with pulls, I am not meaning in terms of Enmity, but for hitting everything. I used flash a bit too when screwing around prior to 4.0, and it's taken some getting use to. It's not so bad once you get things down and filter the mobs around.

You will get that one or two annoying mobs that are casters and stay away, or that fat one that the first thing he does is a long..long cast. Or the mobs come out of the wood work in such odd places. Some of this I believe is the game, and another QoL fix would be to adjust mob positioning in dungeons mostly. I think we're long overdue for that.

All I'm saying is that you probably will not see Flash come back, and while you can ask for it from the devs, look at constructive ways to improve that you might not be able to see with some places you're having issues pulling. Sometimes it is the game and we have to bite the bullet, other times it's us. Though that's hard for people to accept. Me? I know I'm wrong on a daily basis so it's not that big of a deal for me.

If it comes back, it's back. If not..well maybe they need to increase the range of Overpower or do some adjustments to both the move and the mob so it doesn't miss as frequent.

[BluexBird]

True story: I was once tanking a dungeon with my Warrior. One of the DPS told me they were a tank too, and questioned why I played as a Warrior. I told him I found them a lot more fun. The guy then said Warriors were the worst tanks, because they ran out of MP too fast and had no way of gettinf it back, unlike Paladins and Dark Knights. Baffled, I asked him why Warriors would even need to get their MP back, and he said: "So you can spam Flash more." When I brought up the fact that you can just use Overpower and don't even need Flash, he called me an idiot and said that then you'd just run out of TP.

It was at that point that I realized... some people really have no idea how to play with Warriors (the "worst" tanks) properly. :')