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  1. #41
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    Misutoraru's Avatar
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Cerberus
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BluexBird View Post
    It was at that point that I realized... some people really have no idea how to play with Warriors (the "worst" tanks) properly. :')
    it is usually a heal popping Regen on me, right before i pull or middle of the pull make me wish I have a "circular AOE pull" especially when I do not have 50 beast gauge

    still adjusting the new play style in 4.0, luckily it seem there are less Range + melee combination trash in 4.0 dungeon making OP pull feel little bit easier than pre 4.0

    I do found PLD the easiest to play with in both holding aggro and keeping myself alive with minimum effort, but i still couldnt change to PLD/DRK as my main tank, as WAR provide way more fun that those two
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  2. #42
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    OcieKo's Avatar
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    Ociela Koslun
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    Midgardsormr
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    And here I mostly used flash for the lvl 10 guilhests... The I just jump while running to have OP hit behind me and not break my movement. The cone is long and pretty easily 90-120 degree angle kindof hard to miss with it in a situation that you wouldnt miss with flash or unleash.
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  3. #43
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    Blue Bird
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    If I notice the monsters are just gonna run past me, I just go stand next to the healer and wait for them there. Worst thing that might happen is the healer will get hit with a few blows, but nothing they won't be able to handle.
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  4. #44
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    Felorr Bhakti
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by BluexBird View Post
    True story: I was once tanking a dungeon with my Warrior. One of the DPS told me they were a tank too, and questioned why I played as a Warrior. I told him I found them a lot more fun. The guy then said Warriors were the worst tanks, because they ran out of MP too fast and had no way of gettinf it back, unlike Paladins and Dark Knights. Baffled, I asked him why Warriors would even need to get their MP back, and he said: "So you can spam Flash more." When I brought up the fact that you can just use Overpower and don't even need Flash, he called me an idiot and said that then you'd just run out of TP.

    It was at that point that I realized... some people really have no idea how to play with Warriors (the "worst" tanks) properly. :')
    And then they come on the forums and make the most outlandish suggestions for abilities thinking they've devised some revolutionary solution to a perceived community issue.
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  5. #45
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    [...]
    I can empathize with that, while I stopped using Flash pretty early on I know that it can be helpful in dungeons. Anticipation and Ultimatum are both candidates for getting replaced, so I can see something akin to Flash being a good replacement for Ultimatum. That said I dunno when we'll actually see any changes to role skills, tanks aren't exactly in a rough spot (only 2 skills aren't particularly useful) so I can't imagine they'll be looking into them any time soon unfortunately.
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  6. #46
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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    Snip.
    I'm just not sure I see the actual practical application for it. It's one of the least used skills I've seen, IMHO, and there's never been any situation I can think of where I wished I had it. At absolute worst case scenario, I'll pop the heal with an incredibly short cd I won't be needing any time soon, and that's that, especially since now SC regens on hit. I don't see an issue with infuriating after the first aggro'd pack because it's gonna be up that much sooner as well! (Granted I still love pulling with On+OP when I reach the last pack.)
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  7. #47
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    Ekimmak's Avatar
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    Carlo Vinne
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 80
    So, got my DRK alt to 70, and there are definitely mobs where having an on-demand PBAoE attack made life easier. Those ninjas on the Kugane Castle bridge are not in a good arrangement for you to pick up easily with overpower. Can I pick them up two gcd later as warrior? Sure. But I feel incomplete because Flash is no longer there.

    Ironic, considering DRK is the one supposedly going through an identity crisis.
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  8. #48
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    BluexBird's Avatar
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    Blue Bird
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Irony, yeah. Talking about an identity crisis, when WARRIORS are crying about losing a skill that wasn't even theirs to begin with. @__@
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  9. #49
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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Steel Cyclone is a damaging flash that also absorbs HP. Can probably stock up BG towards the end of the pack's health and use that for the next hoard of mobs
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  10. #50
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    Dezee Redwolf
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    Coeurl
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    Warrior Lv 70
    We don't need flash you making War look bad we went from being the most badass class to the biggest babies stop plz we are in a good spot now.
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