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  1. #301
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    Clicked's Avatar
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    Edge Vice
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 83
    The only way you'll see any sort of reaction is to cancel your subscriptions. People complaining on the forum is not a terribly high priority. People unsubscribing gets the attention of the entire company and their investors.
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  2. #302
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    Ronivan's Avatar
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    Roni Beoulve
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I'll try to back my money wasted on Stormblood on Steam as soon as we get a formal answer for this. Probably I'll not get nothing back, and even if do, I would not expend in another SE game, never again. Even if they change back to the original value we used to pay, how can we still trust this company? I think I may quit FFXIV totally after this, even if they return to the old price, cause we don't know when we are going to get stabbed in the back again, and most likely we will.
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  3. #303
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    Silingfasi's Avatar
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    Wizzardo Ricercatore
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    Tonberry
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    Botanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonsilt View Post
    . Also, FF XIV with 3 additional retainers is now 100% higher than World of Warcraft in "per month" (550r WoW Vs 1100r FFXIV).
    How much do you pay for the 3 retainers? I hear that first one costs 290r. So it's 850+290*3 ~ 1720r
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  4. #304
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    Zeonsilt's Avatar
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    Evan Lionheart
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    Cerberus
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Silingfasi View Post
    How much do you pay for the 3 retainers? I hear that first one costs 290r. So it's 850+290*3 ~ 1720r

    Assuming that 1 retainer is 1.40 Euro = 95r (Mogstation)
    This means 859+ 95x3 = 1144r per month for FF XIV sub and 3 retainers.

    p.s. Black Desert Online premium account is also 500r per month.
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    Last edited by Zeonsilt; 07-21-2017 at 02:57 PM.

  5. #305
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    Ckrownz's Avatar
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    Seraph Krowno
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    Sargatanas
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Clicked View Post
    The only way you'll see any sort of reaction is to cancel your subscriptions. People complaining on the forum is not a terribly high priority. People unsubscribing gets the attention of the entire company and their investors.
    Like I said, this will happen if nothing changes from now on, a good reaction too is to give bad review on steam and metacritic, and make this more visible for people out of this community know the scam that SE did, doing this you will not only help the increase of the drop in subscriptions but also gives a bad image for the company (the only thing except money that they care about).
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  6. #306
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    DoppelShifter's Avatar
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    Limsa. Don't trust anyone who say Gridania.
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    Character
    Kyjal Naddara
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Speaking of Steam reviews, it's currently at 66% and still dropping like a rock.

    It was at 72% a few hours ago when I started watching, and it had already dropped quite a bit (the lifetime average for FFXIV is 85% positive).
    (4)

  7. #307
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    Roni Beoulve
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ckrownz View Post
    Like I said, this will happen if nothing changes from now on, a good reaction too is to give bad review on steam and metacritic, and make this more visible for people out of this community know the scam that SE did, doing this you will not only help the increase of the drop in subscriptions but also gives a bad image for the company (the only thing except money that they care about).
    Its more likely will happen around the time everyone subscriptions ends and are not renewed, this will cause noticeable drop in the subscription income and then this will get noticed. However the damage to the game reputation was already done, well at least in countries like ours that they don't care much and don't give much priority to anything, sad but it's the truth. I don't think I'm willing to trust in this company anymore after this.
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  8. #308
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    Wizzardo Ricercatore
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    Tonberry
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    Botanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonsilt View Post
    Assuming that 1 retainer is 1.40 Euro = 95r (Mogstation)
    This means 859+ 95x3 = 1144r per month for FF XIV sub and 3 retainers.

    p.s. Black Desert Online premium account is also 500r per month.
    It's seems that price is somewhat bugged in that case and add two "free" ones to calculation.
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  9. #309
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    Marrodin's Avatar
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    Angus Magnus
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    Cerberus
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    I agree to accept such prices, but I am not satisfied with the fact that the prices have been changed without prior notice, as stipulated in the user agreement. In our country (Russia), any game that has a subscription has a more large community of players than in Europe. Did you really think that there are not a few lawyers among us?
    In this case, I demand only one thing - the public apology of Mr. Yoshida san. Since these actions contradict his words about respect for the players.
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  10. #310
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    Ailis's Avatar
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    Lua Kahra
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Marrodin View Post
    I agree to accept such prices, but I am not satisfied with the fact that the prices have been changed without prior notice, as stipulated in the user agreement. In our country (Russia), any game that has a subscription has a more large community of players than in Europe. Did you really think that there are not a few lawyers among us?
    In this case, I demand only one thing - the public apology of Mr. Yoshida san. Since these actions contradict his words about respect for the players.
    That probably has little to do with Yoshida tbh, seems more like a SE (as a company) action rather than something he would like to do.
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